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Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint ...

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:06 PM
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Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.
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n response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”

Key excerpts from the JCT letter appear below:

“H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]

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“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]

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“Criminal penalties

Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.” [page 3]

When confronted with this same issue during its consideration of a similar individual mandate tax, the Senate Finance Committee worked on a bipartisan basis to include language in its bill that shielded Americans from civil and criminal penalties. The Pelosi bill, however, contains no similar language protecting American citizens from civil and criminal tax penalties that could include a $250,000 fine and five years in jail.

“The Senate Finance Committee had the good sense to eliminate the extreme penalty of incarceration. Speaker Pelosi’s decision to leave in the jail time provision is a threat to every family who cannot afford the $15,000 premium her plan creates. Fortunately, Republicans have an alternative that will lower health insurance costs without raising taxes or cutting Medicare,” said Camp.

According to the Congressional Budget Office the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.
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I would like to tell them where they can put their health care but that would not be very Christian.
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Oh it would not be pretty if they tried to put me in jail for that communist bullsh**!! They will get my guns alright, bullets first!!!
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Gee, I've always believed that the punishment should fit the crime. What exactly is criminal about not getting insurance? Between the Democrats' comfortable House majority and their filibuster-proof Senate,this monstrosity is virtually guaranteed to pass. Look out.
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Oh well. At least you get free health care and free room and board.. plus you don't pay taxes.. there is a saying -- you can not put everyone in jail !!! Plus I don't think the bill will pass..
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that's messed up.
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Frankly, I'm starting to think that this might be where the SHTF. Since when can Congress order the citizenry to buy any product or service? What's next, we may only buy electric cars from Government Motors? Oh, boy...

I doubt (hopefully, anyway) that this will pass the Senate. Then again...
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Frankly, I'm starting to think that this might be where the SHTF. Since when can Congress order the citizenry to buy any product or service? What's next, we may only buy electric cars from Government Motors? Oh, boy...

I doubt (hopefully, anyway) that this will pass the Senate. Then again...
We'll only be buying electric cars, if that's the only vehicle Government Motors is allowed to build.
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Frankly, I'm starting to think that this might be where the SHTF. Since when can Congress order the citizenry to buy any product or service? What's next, we may only buy electric cars from Government Motors? Oh, boy...

I doubt (hopefully, anyway) that this will pass the Senate. Then again...

You've got that "trigger" right! I will neither be forced into govt health care, nor will I go to jail.
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Simply amazing.
telling us what to think has evolved into telling us what to say, so telling us what to do can't be far behind- Charlton Heston.
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