Joe biden's Speech last night-Awesome!

[mom of 3 angels]

Originally Posted by jwtollett21

here we go HK4u me and you again. jk. we have alot in common we just haven't talked about it yet. We are having to much fun to get to that quit yet. I was saying that you need to be rich to vote republican. I wasn't saying that i will get rich if obama gets elected. I'm just saying the democrats do more as a whole for the middle and working class than do republicans thats all.

Almost didn't get involved, but you are dead wrong here. The Republican party is not full of rich folks like you are led to believe. My husband and I both vote/believe hard republican/right and our family of 5 makes less than 35K/year and I know we are not alone. What the liberals do for the middle/working class is make them dependent on government for their livelihood instead of giving them any incentive to pick themselves up and work to make their lives better. I don't disagree with government help for those who truly need it, but fully disagree with government help for those who are able to and should help themselves.

Suppose you go to college and work hard and study and get a 4.0. And your pal slacks off and parties and fails. Should you be required to give 35-50% of your GPA to him? Doesn't seem right does it? But then it would all be "fair". What is actually fair is that you both had the same opportunity and one of you earned more by working for it than the other.

[HK4U]

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship."

Originally Posted by jwtollett21

I forgot all you guys make 250 k a year. When i get there i will be a republican to.

so that means the Kennedys the Rockefellars, John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Bore and Obamalamabambam etc etc etc etc etc are really Republicans because they qualify under your criteria!! I luv this list, ya learn something everyday. I'm a Dem and didnt know it but my bank account sure shows it

[HK4U]

Originally Posted by mom of 3 angels

Almost didn't get involved, but you are dead wrong here. The Republican party is not full of rich folks like you are led to believe. My husband and I both vote/believe hard republican/right and our family of 5 makes less than 35K/year and I know we are not alone. What the liberals do for the middle/working class is make them dependent on government for their livelihood instead of giving them any incentive to pick themselves up and work to make their lives better. I don't disagree with government help for those who truly need it, but fully disagree with government help for those who are able to and should help themselves.

Suppose you go to college and work hard and study and get a 4.0. And your pal slacks off and parties and fails. Should you be required to give 35-50% of your GPA to him? Doesn't seem right does it? But then it would all be "fair". What is actually fair is that you both had the same opportunity and one of you earned more by working for it than the other.

[I]Good point Mom and here is something more about the "for the poor liiberals". Check out ABC's money trail/I]

ABC News

[kwo51]

That was great pilosey $100000 people and ABC news not let in.Commies voting for obama is enough to make me puke.

[TR4A]

Originally Posted by jwtollett21

here we go HK4u me and you again. jk. we have alot in common we just haven't talked about it yet. We are having to much fun to get to that quit yet. I was saying that you need to be rich to vote republican. I wasn't saying that i will get rich if obama gets elected. I'm just saying the democrats do more as a whole for the middle and working class than do republicans thats all.

It's called socialism.

[tattedupboy]

Originally Posted by HK4U

If the unthinkable does happen and MR. Obamanation is elected please get back to us in a couple of years and let us know how rich you have become.

Let me just add that he should let us know how much bigger his gun collection has become by that time.

[MP3Mogul]

He's a blowhard just like NoBama... and no I don't make 250K a year... I wish I did... try 50K a year.

Dems always love BIG government and NEW programs to take more of my money...

They're gonna reduce my healthcare? How??? My company pays 100 percent of the cost... my wife's is not unreasonable either at her work.

If we get socialist healthcare for everyone, I can break my arm and wait 4 weeks for an X-Ray... Oh boy, I can't wait.

[trobinson]

Don't want to get into the larger political debate here. Just wanted to say to Tollett, I'm glad to see I'm not the only Democrat on the forum.

[tattedupboy]

Originally Posted by MP3Mogul

He's a blowhard just like NoBama... and no I don't make 250K a year... I wish I did... try 50K a year.

Dems always love BIG government and NEW programs to take more of my money...

They're gonna reduce my healthcare? How??? My company pays 100 percent of the cost... my wife's is not unreasonable either at her work.

If we get socialist healthcare for everyone, I can break my arm and wait 4 weeks for an X-Ray... Oh boy, I can't wait.

Not only that, but we can expect the health problems of smokers, alcoholics, drug addicts, and pretty much everyone who makes irresponsible lifestyle choices, to be taken care of at taxpayer expense. My take on it is, if you want to put your health in jeopardy, that's your choice, just don't ask me to pay for your health care when you get sick.