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Originally Posted by mot mayhem I might be wrong in my train of thought..... but, if they are ILLEGAL, do they even have any rights? I mean, they shouldn't be here in the first place, they are breaking our laws, and yet they are still defended as normal legal citizens. I am for fair treatment to all, but they have no rights. Especially when they break the law right from the start by coming here illegally. |
I've got to disagree with you in practice, although your heart is in the right place.
I do believe that anyone in this country is subject to the same rights and protection under the law. If you are here illegally, you should get a fair hearing, and then you should be deported. We should secure our borders so those same people can not return. You broke the law by coming illegally, and you are not welcome here for (as it currently stands) ten years. If you commit a crime here, you are punished, as we would anyone else, and THEN you are deported.
If we start taking away protective rights, eventually that same logic will be twisted into use against us. I would rather have a system in place for dealing with illegals within the criminal justice system than allow the police to become even MORE used to riding roughshod over our rights.
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