Picks of your suppressed Firearms....

[KimberPB]

Ok I'll start it off. Currently this is my one and only NFA class weapon, a wealther P22 with suppresser, scope mount, and red dot. My next will be either a 9mm suppresser or a SBR AR-15. So post your suppressed firearms.



Ops! Title should say Pics...

[David Hineline]

I have bunches.

[kwo51]

Cool ! I have the can -can for my ring tone.

[Canis-Lupus]

OK folks, I ask only out of curiosity, but other than your weapon makes less noise when fired, (earplugs solve that) what legal & tactical reasons would a CCW owner need of this kit? I thought the idea was to be present when the LEO's show up 2 bag the BG, get your statement and run your story, so E & E is not even close to a good reason to shoot and Di-Di. They add length/size & weight to any gun making true total concealed carry more difficult and take a few seconds to screw/pop one on even with practice. Some (older) models I've seen used actually slow or change the trajectory (spin) of the round as it exits the gun. Miss! The S. Korean ones are prone to explode, saw that mess @ a range outside of Camp Page during Team Spirit '84, blew the ROK's eye to bits! Granted these R not those kim-chee abominations. For hunting I can see U not wanting 2 spook other game, but for CQC I just see them as a way 2 slow me down. Not blasting the concept so please don't flame me too badly, I just don't understand what edge one gives me running into a BG, and I can think of several legal ones it screws me with BAD here in WA if I use one or get caught with one in my carry-gear/reach.
General Rules for Possession of Firearms

Source: Everett city training bulletin 2007-06, dated 03/13/2007

Web: Washington Ceasefire - Everett Police Confirm that Open Carry of Pistols is Legal in Washington
"(A person) Cannot possess a silencer." (and they also mean end of barrel add-on sound suppressors too not legal barrel-tip flash suppressors all M-16's or AR's have built in to cut down the light not the bang)

Source: Everett city training bulletin 2007-06, dated 03/13/2007

Web: http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/open_carry_training_bulletins_washington.pdf
(Signed) JAMES I. SCHARF Chief of Police
(The 2 states of WA deal again I guess but per a chat with a Sr. Spokane cop I had over this: "Major probs if U use one here, or much less if U don't inside this city!) Granted these R NOT RCW's or laws (yet) but they R the training media and official guidance given to our P & S B 4 they hit the beat so if they see one they will probably pounce.
I think they are cool and have a bona-fide use, but most of those seem to fade to black-ops.
Enlighten me please,

Canis-Lupus

[KimberPB]

Originally Posted by Canis-Lupus

OK folks, I ask only out of curiosity, but other than your weapon makes less noise when fired, (earplugs solve that) what legal & tactical reasons would a CCW owner need of this kit? I thought the idea was to be present when the LEO's show up 2 bag the BG, get your statement and run your story, so E & E is not even close to a good reason to shoot and Di-Di. They add length/size & weight to any gun making true total concealed carry more difficult and take a few seconds to screw/pop one on even with practice. Some (older) models I've seen used actually slow or change the trajectory (spin) of the round as it exits the gun. Miss! The S. Korean ones are prone to explode, saw that mess @ a range outside of Camp Page during Team Spirit '84, blew the ROK's eye to bits! Granted these R not those kim-chee abominations. For hunting I can see U not wanting 2 spook other game, but for CQC I just see them as a way 2 slow me down. Not blasting the concept so please don't flame me too badly, I just don't understand what edge one gives me running into a BG, and I can think of several legal ones it screws me with BAD here in WA if I use one or get caught with one in my carry-gear/reach.
General Rules for Possession of Firearms

Source: Everett city training bulletin 2007-06, dated 03/13/2007

Web: Washington Ceasefire - Everett Police Confirm that Open Carry of Pistols is Legal in Washington
"(A person) Cannot possess a silencer." (and they also mean end of barrel add-on sound suppressors too not legal barrel-tip flash suppressors all M-16's or AR's have built in to cut down the light not the bang)

Source: Everett city training bulletin 2007-06, dated 03/13/2007

Web: http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/open_carry_training_bulletins_washington.pdf
(Signed) JAMES I. SCHARF Chief of Police
(The 2 states of WA deal again I guess but per a chat with a Sr. Spokane cop I had over this: "Major probs if U use one here, or much less if U don't inside this city!) Granted these R NOT RCW's or laws (yet) but they R the training media and official guidance given to our P & S B 4 they hit the beat so if they see one they will probably pounce.
I think they are cool and have a bona-fide use, but most of those seem to fade to black-ops.
Enlighten me please,

Canis-Lupus

I agree that for me it is not practical to carry a suppressed weapon, let alone my suppressed .22, but it is a great way to avoid having to wear ear plugs or muffs. I bought mine mainly as an investment and a way to shoot without having to wear hearing protection. And of course they are just a blast to shoot.

[John Hardin]

OK folks, I ask only out of curiosity, but other than your weapon makes less noise when fired, (earplugs solve that) what legal & tactical reasons would a CCW owner need of this kit?
Not blasting the concept so please don't flame me too badly, I just don't understand what edge one gives me running into a BG, and I can think of several legal ones it screws me with BAD here in WA if I use one or get caught with one in my carry-gear/reach.

I give some reasons here:

http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/wa_gu...suppressor.txt

General Rules for Possession of Firearms
Source: Everett city training bulletin 2007-06, dated 03/13/2007
"(A person) Cannot possess a silencer."

Even though that appears in a police training bulletin, that is factually inaccurate.

Washington law states that use of a suppressor is a misdemeanor offense - see the above link.

It is lawful to possess a suppressor (assuming you've jumped through all the federal hoops).

It is lawful to carry a suppressor around.

It is lawful to attach a suppressor to your firearm.

It is not lawful to propel bullets through a suppressor.

[Canis-Lupus]

OK I read: Proposed amendment to RCW 9.41.250, which seems to point at the only reason a weapon should have a noise reducing device, silencer, suppressor attached is to make the discharge less decibels. In a range U wear hearing protection and one loud thunder clap is about 50 times as loud as a 155mm Howitzer @ 10 meters from canon-cock or muzzle shell exit point. Average storm gives off about 70 of those ear-splitters, do you wear ear plugs during a storm? Maybe a good idea if it gets right on top of you, but I never have. I don't think nor have I ever heard that a single shot fired in self defense has been a reason for a BG to sue the shooter for hearing loss, and God help us if that idea gets popular (!!!) or a BG wins that tort, but I'll leave that [quietly] alone. Cars back-fire all the time with the sound of a shot-gun fired close-up, and maybe a passing cop would cite the driver if it was B/F-ing every 10 seconds, but it is normally just a H2O build-up or fuel problem, a 1 time start-up deal and not a willful act. Then Everett city training bulletin 2007-06, dated 03/13/2007 (which is a local WA city in the 'other' WA state over by Sea-Tac) training dogma/not a WA state-wide RCW for Everett city LEO's states: It is not lawful to propel bullets through a suppressor. Great an expensive add-on that U dare not shoot a round thru. IMHO you have done one thing with a silencer or a suppressor on any weapon, made it more stealthy to shoot someone or thing without getting caught (location given away by sound) discharging a weapon in areas where it is forbidden to, and the penalties for doing that go way above normal fines to jail and felony. So I am still not convinced of the need for a silencer except if U have the legal right to silently (and it still makes an audible loud POP not a loud BANG) whack enemies of the Unites States of America ala Deltas/Seals in Iraq, or certain ABC's who do covert work for the very real secret government agencies of this nation. Can you provide me with a better reason for a silenced shooter?
Interesting thread,

Canis-Lupus

[kwo51]

It is polite not to make your neighbors jump.It is the law in some countrys that all gun must be suppresed.Target pratice only.

[KimberPB]

There are many good legit applications that a suppressor is good for. Here are a few:

1. An investment just like many other firearms. You think the value will go up is Obama gets in office??
2. I've taken new shooters to the range and they loved shooting the 22. because it wasn't noisy or kicked hard. Since then they have come back several times. So it help new people get into the sport.
3. Say you have a basement. Whats stopping you from making your own little indoor range? Noise? not an issue.
4. Say you want to shoot in your back yard but its either to early or to late for all that noise. Problem solved.
5. Say you have a garden or just some rodents you need to get off your property or out of your garden. Now you can without bugging anyone around.
6. I personally love shooting mine something about hearing the bullet hit the target/back stop is just fun.
7. Well, they just look cool
8. I can sooooo why not?

Just a few reasons.

[LeavingMass]

Originally Posted by Canis-Lupus

OK folks, I ask only out of curiosity, but other than your weapon makes less noise when fired, (earplugs solve that) what legal & tactical reasons would a CCW owner need of this kit? ......

Should neighbors and other citizens wear ear plugs because you have a weapon and may fire it ?

Suppressors are used to reduce noise

same way a muffler is on a car, truck or bike

How about your neighbors or bike riders cut off their mufflers and drive by your property all hours of the day ?