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This is a discussion on Another Movie Theater to Boycott within the Colorado Discussion and Firearm News forums, part of the Firearms Discussion by State category; Deputies handled it well, but movie theater staff did not. JEFFERSON COUNTY, Colo. – Sheriff Deputies were called to Elvis ...

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    Deputies handled it well, but movie theater staff did not.


    JEFFERSON COUNTY, Colo. – Sheriff Deputies were called to Elvis Cinemas Littleton theater Saturday night on a report of a man with a gun at the theater.

    The unidentified man was legally carrying the weapon while wearing a jacket, but the handgun was visible. Whether the gun was reported by other customers or by theater employees wasn’t immediately disclosed.

    The cinema manager, who was not identified, asked deputies to escort the customer from the theater. Deputies complied with the manager’s request.

    The customer does not face charges and was not arrested since openly carrying firearms is legal in Jefferson County.

    http://kdvr.com/2012/09/08/movie-pat...nemas-theater/

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    I wonder if they even asked him to leave, or if they just called the cops right away...

    He better have gotten a refund.
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    After what happened in Aurora, to some extent, I can understand the knee-jerk reaction of movie theaters when it comes to openly visible gun, legal or not. What I find disheartening is, if the theater has the required posted signs (I have no clue what the laws are regarding the weight of 'no gun' signs in this part of the country) and a legal open carrier defies the signs, what was he expecting?

    Although my intent by this posting is to not open the argument about rights vs signs, I guess the discussion could turn to common sense. As gun owners we all are supposed to have the sensibility and forethought required to have complete control of our faculties at all times. We all talk about situational awareness and how critical it is to be aware of not only our physical surroundings but the situations we are putting ourselves into.

    What about the situations our presence is creating?

    With that in mind, does anyone think you would qualify as situationally aware if you carry openly into the same environment that experienced a mass murder only a few weeks earlier? Under these conditions wouldn't it make much more sense to conceal rather than open carry? And if this guy was "concealing" he wasn't doing a very good job of it and I contest that he, again, failed the awareness test if he allowed his gun to uncover.

    Admittedly the news article doesn't give much information so I'm just kind of shooting from the hip, at it were. And I am expecting the hard line responses from the militant (expressed in a very good meaning) open carriers and the same from the conceal carriers, but somewhere along the line, we as gun owners need to take into consideration how our actions are interpreted by the uneducated.

    This guys actions didn't do us, as a group, very much good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    I wonder if they even asked him to leave, or if they just called the cops right away...

    He better have gotten a refund.
    10-4 on the refund. I wonder what the legal weight of signs are in this area and whether or not there were signs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walt629 View Post
    After what happened in Aurora, to some extent, I can understand the knee-jerk reaction of movie theaters when it comes to openly visible gun, legal or not. What I find disheartening is, if the theater has the required posted signs (I have no clue what the laws are regarding the weight of 'no gun' signs in this part of the country) and a legal open carrier defies the signs, what was he expecting?

    When I open carry I expect the same respect as when I conceal carry, even at the movie theatre. Which btw, welcomes my openly carried firearm, more so since the Colorado shooting. I don't carry past those signs when I open or conceal, because I respect their private property rights, it would be hypocritical to disrespect their rights in the name of my own rights. But we don't know if the theatres even had a sign up or not.

    Although my intent by this posting is to not open the argument about rights vs signs, I guess the discussion could turn to common sense. As gun owners we all are supposed to have the sensibility and forethought required to have complete control of our faculties at all times. We all talk about situational awareness and how critical it is to be aware of not only our physical surroundings but the situations we are putting ourselves into.

    What about the situations our presence is creating?

    With that in mind, does anyone think you would qualify as situationally aware if you carry openly into the same environment that experienced a mass murder only a few weeks earlier? Under these conditions wouldn't it make much more sense to conceal rather than open carry? And if this guy was "concealing" he wasn't doing a very good job of it and I contest that he, again, failed the awareness test if he allowed his gun to uncover.

    I open carried into my theater before the shooting, and I will not let a psycho dictate how I carry now. The theater and I had a nice discussion the last time I was there, and its unfortunate that there are so few that understand people should defend themselves. So for me no it wouldn't make more sense to conceal. Firearms need a good light shining right now, wouldn't it make more sense to openly carry?

    Admittedly the news article doesn't give much information so I'm just kind of shooting from the hip, at it were. And I am expecting the hard line responses from the militant (expressed in a very good meaning) open carriers and the same from the conceal carriers, but somewhere along the line, we as gun owners need to take into consideration how our actions are interpreted by the uneducated.

    This guys actions didn't do us, as a group, very much good.
    But he did so some good, even if you feel it wasn't very much. I feel he did good, now we know another theater that offers up their patrons as sacrificial sheep.

    I do consider how others will respond to me, that's why I read up on the laws and have a smile on my face. Beyond that, they don't mean a thing when it comes to the way I choose to defend my life.

    But that's just my opinion on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    I wonder if they even asked him to leave, or if they just called the cops right away...

    He better have gotten a refund.
    10-4 on the refund. I wonder what the legal weight of signs are in this area and whether or not there were signs.
    Yeah there is a lot of specific information missing to really have a good conversation over it...but the general picture is there. Maybe more will come out? Maybe not as the gun carrier was polite, the police were polite, nothing happened, and the news just can't let that out, it will ruin their agenda. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    But he did so some good, even if you feel it wasn't very much. I feel he did good, now we know another theater that offers up their patrons as sacrificial sheep.

    I do consider how others will respond to me, that's why I read up on the laws and have a smile on my face. Beyond that, they don't mean a thing when it comes to the way I choose to defend my life.

    But that's just my opinion on the matter.


    Yeah there is a lot of specific information missing to really have a good conversation over it...but the general picture is there. Maybe more will come out? Maybe not as the gun carrier was polite, the police were polite, nothing happened, and the news just can't let that out, it will ruin their agenda. Lol.
    Chen, I almost always agree with you, like 99 percent of the time. In fact, if you ever leave your wife, you and I are running off to Tahiti to live with the natives. I'm pretty sure that's a good plan.

    But...I do think there's something to be said for having the right approach to open carry.

    Yes, I KNOW you think that it's them, not you, who has the problem. And I do agree. But in this case, he wasn't exactly concealed and wasn't exactly open. The jacket created some doubt. And, I think you'll agree, much more than the weapon, the attitude and presentation have a LOT to do with being able to successfully open carry.

    If you have a gun on your hip, and you act in a way that is odd, sketchy, what have you, you're gonna attract attention. Considering Aurora, and the halfsie-hidden thing...I dunno. It seems like something this guy should have considered.

    He should have either concealed or just walked right in, head high, gun displayed, completely confident, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by localgirl View Post
    Chen, I almost always agree with you, like 99 percent of the time. In fact, if you ever leave your wife, you and I are running off to Tahiti to live with the natives. I'm pretty sure that's a good plan.

    But...I do think there's something to be said for having the right approach to open carry.

    Yes, I KNOW you think that it's them, not you, who has the problem. And I do agree. But in this case, he wasn't exactly concealed and wasn't exactly open. The jacket created some doubt. And, I think you'll agree, much more than the weapon, the attitude and presentation have a LOT to do with being able to successfully open carry.

    If you have a gun on your hip, and you act in a way that is odd, sketchy, what have you, you're gonna attract attention. Considering Aurora, and the halfsie-hidden thing...I dunno. It seems like something this guy should have considered.

    He should have either concealed or just walked right in, head high, gun displayed, completely confident, you know?
    Aw thanks LG :)

    I do agree there are better ways to approach open carrying than some I have seen, and yes it's not ME with the problem it's THEM :-D. DUH!

    I do not feel wearing a jacket and halfsie-hidden a firearm is a bad look at all, but again maybe that's me. One of the more arguable aspects to open carry is, "If I expose my firearm on accident, I am ok since OC is legal." When I open carry during the fall it can get cold pretty quick towards the evening, so I just throw on a waist length jacket (usually a light leather jacket or carhartt jacket) and don't zip it up, this makes me look exactly like what I imagine the open carrier looked like in the article. Then again...he could of looked like a total slob, and I have been known to look like a metro so I could be biased in my imagination...

    We really don't know what happened, besides that the sheriffs were called and they escorted the man out. We don't know if it was just a scared'y cat who ran to a phone without even watching the MWAG...or the MWAG could of been acting suspiciously...there was no incident though, no arguing, no arrests, they walked him out and he went home...that makes me think that the guy was dressed nicely, was confident, and was a gentleman.

    Then again...this story is so generic that our imaginations could run wild all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walt629 View Post
    10-4 on the refund. I wonder what the legal weight of signs are in this area and whether or not there were signs.
    In CO, signs do not have the force of the law. If you are asked to leave by an authorized person (owner, manager, etc.), you must leave or you can/will be cited for trespassing. That's my understanding. Can't speak to the existence of signs. I don't go to movie theaters and have yet to see a "No Guns" sign on any business I frequent.

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