This is a discussion on Re: College Campus Carry within the Concealed Carry Discussion forums, part of the Main Category category; Originally Posted by vanphillips BTW - just so you know - I'm also in favor of requiring training and proof ...
And who gets to decide who is "adequately" trained and who isn't? Who gets to determine what the "reasonable" fee for such training is? Who gets to decide who is "elite" enough to be able to defend themselves with a gun and who isn't? Of course you can point to the blood running in the streets in states like ID, WY, MT, NV, AZ, NM, WA, SD, KY, VA, NC, CO and VT (and I missed a couple) where no training is required to carry a gun in public, right? Oh, wait...you can't. Because not requiring training in those states has not made anyone at any more danger than in states such as NY, MA, IL, CA, TX, or OK... hmmmm. Seems like this whole "you must be required to be trained to carry a gun" is just another academic and political feel good measure that has no measureable benefit to it.
Yes, training is beneficial. Yes people should be able to get training - voluntarily. But to limit their ability to defend themselves based upon a government instituted standard of proficiency is simply not included in the 2nd Amendment that I read and believe in.
I agree with it being taught in the schools and I have also been lamblasted fro suggesting such a thing that some feel that there is no way that the public schools could possibly do anything but teach the anti side of guns. No matter we aren't going to see it taucht in schools but I see no harm in teaching people proper gun safety whether blood runs in the streets or not. It is just like the VP asking the head the safety department at a company that I used to work at, "Can you prove to me that the $1,000,000's of dollars we have spent on safety has saved one life or prevented one accident?".
The other day I got really depressed whwn I started counting up the number of friends, relatives and aquaintances that I had that were killed or wounded by guns. I don't know if training or a permit would have saved a single one of them but I doubt that it would have resulted in more. I sropped at around a dozen as it was too depressing.