carrying at cobo

[sd40]

I am going to cobo center for the car show. And I was wondering if I am allowed to carry their.thank you to who ever

[eaccents]

I am going to cobo center for the car show. And I was wondering if I am allowed to carry their.thank you to who ever

I am assuming that you have a Michigan CCW.

Michigan CCW permits have pistol free zones listed on the back of your permit, and I believe that Cobo Center qualifies as "An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more."

A quick internet search indicates that Cobo's original capacity was 12,000 seats (it has since expanded). Whether or not there are seats or chairs set up for the show does not matter--it is the capacity that is at the crux of the matter.

You may wish to debate whether or not you are prohibited from carrying there, but if you read the list of Pistol Free Zones it becomes clear that the statutes are written to prevent us from carrying in places where there are large groups of people whose quick escape from a potential shooter is limited by the both the amount of people present as well as the physical structure you are visiting.

You may call the Michigan State Police to ask their opinion, but to really be sure you need to consult a lawyer familiar with handgun law.

In my very humble opinion, if you need to consult a lawyer to see if you can do something ... you probably don't want to do it.

Enjoy the show--there are some really great cars being unveiled this year!

[NavyLCDR]

You have to open carry there. Here is the interpretation by the Michigan Attorney General:

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...s/firearms.pdf

Page 246:

A plain reading of section 5o(1) of the Concealed Pistol Licensing Act discloses, however, that its prohibition applies only to the carrying of pistols that are “concealed.” A holstered pistol carried openly and in plain view is not “concealed” and therefore does not violate the prohibition contained in that section. See, e.g., OAG, 1951-1952, No 1388, p 228 (April 18, 1951) (“Should they be so directed by their superior officers, auxiliary police while on duty may carry weapons openly, the prohibition in the Penal Code applying only to ‘concealed’ weapons.”), Cf., People v Johnnie W. Jones, 12 Mich App 293, 296; 162 NW2d 847 (1968); and People v Kincade, 61 Mich App 498, 502; 233 NW2d 54 (1975).

This, however, does not end the analysis of your question. The carrying of firearms in public is also restricted by the Michigan Penal Code, 1931 PA 328, MCL 750.1 et seq. Section 234d of the Penal Code identifies certain “gun free zones” similar to those enumerated in section 5o of the Concealed Pistol Licensing Act; within those specified zones, the possession of firearms is strictly prohibited, subject to limited exceptions. Specifically, section 234d(1) of the Penal Code provides that:
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
(a) A depository financial institution or a subsidiary or affiliate of a depository financial institution.
(b) A church or other house of religious worship.
(c) A court.
(d) A theatre.
(e) A sports arena.
(f) A day care center.
(g) A hospital.
(h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.

This language is significantly broader than that employed by section 5o of the Concealed Pistol Licensing Act. By its express terms, section 234d(1) of the Penal Code applies to firearms generally, not merely to pistols, and applies to firearms whether concealed or not.

[unclewayne17]

Not suppose to carrie in a place thats 2500,plus it is a no carry zone. Sorry.

[Iam2Taz]

Better look at the laws section.

Oh, Welcome to the forum!

[NavyLCDR]

Not suppose to carrie in a place thats 2500,plus it is a no carry zone. Sorry.

Wrong. Not suppose to CONCEAL in a place that 2500. That's what the State Attorney General, the highest attorney in the state government says. Except his grammar is a bit better.