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    I went back and forth about carrying a round in the tube in my Glock 27. I finally bought a couple Crossbreed holsters, 1 for inside and one outside the waistband. I now feel very comfortable keeping a round in the tube with both of those holsters. I figure if I ever need it I probably need it sooner than later and the trigger pull on a 27 is pretty brisk. I'm not worried about changing positions in my seat and having it go off.





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    I'll just chime in to drive the point even more home. If it isn't cocked and locked then it shouldn't be a carry weapon. An attack isn't something that comes out of the sunrise and is a mile away screaming as they roll in on you, it's a split second change in situation where somebody passing you, standing on a corner or around it, or comes up behind you and attacks. Getting your weapon to firing condition will never happen. Safety is something that most people are always concerned with, you have to remember that these firearms were designed to be carried with a round in the chamber. The engineers had that in mind from the beginning.

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    Welcome to the site....
    There is a ton of knowledge here. Just a thought or two. First, until you are really confident with your pistol, I would not use the shoulder rig. There are a number of issues with speed and sweeping unintended targets with the muzzle. Find a good In the Waist Band holster and practice with it. (A lot.) The more you practice with your set up, the more comfortable you will be with carrying and having a round in the chamber.
    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdBro View Post
    Hello-

    I have had rifles and shotguns my whole life. I recently purchased a Ruger SR9 as my first handgun that I plan using my new CCW with.

    I have a shoulder strap and an open Blackhawk hard plastic (w/trigger cover) holster. I have not carried it outside of my home yet as I want to first know the firearm inside and out.

    Once I eventually do carry, do you guys suggest carrying it in C-1 or C-3? This model has an external safety and the trigger will be covered when holstered. However, something makes me a bit uneasy about C-1 -- What are the chances to a discharge without the trigger being pulled?

    I think I'd go with C-3 just to be cautious as I take safety very seriously.

    I just want a feel for what you guys suggest.

    Thanks.
    I respectfully suggest to you sir, that based on the questions you have asked in this thread and the fact that you take safety very seriously (which I commend you for), you should take a basic handgun course approved by the NRA from a reputable instructor. There is an portion of this website that will most likely reveal the location of one in your area. I believe this will serve you much better than trying to gain an education from online forum sources. Not that there aren't many, many qualified people here. You're simply better off learning in another environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agrippakc View Post
    I'll just chime in to drive the point even more home. If it isn't cocked and locked then it shouldn't be a carry weapon. An attack isn't something that comes out of the sunrise and is a mile away screaming as they roll in on you, it's a split second change in situation where somebody passing you, standing on a corner or around it, or comes up behind you and attacks. Getting your weapon to firing condition will never happen. Safety is something that most people are always concerned with, you have to remember that these firearms were designed to be carried with a round in the chamber. The engineers had that in mind from the beginning.
    Good example. If your fighting off an attack at close range, and you are like most people with only 2 hands, guess how many it takes to pull the slide to chamber a round. Your free hand would be better off somewhat defending yourself, your draw, and setting up to fire, if needed, instead of having to chamber a round. If you have to use both hands to chamber, well your pretty much left completely helpless while doing so and will lose very valuable time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldekard View Post
    I respectfully suggest to you sir, that based on the questions you have asked in this thread and the fact that you take safety very seriously (which I commend you for), you should take a basic handgun course approved by the NRA from a reputable instructor. There is an portion of this website that will most likely reveal the location of one in your area. I believe this will serve you much better than trying to gain an education from online forum sources. Not that there aren't many, many qualified people here. You're simply better off learning in another environment.
    Good pointer, Wyldekard.

    Then, after that basic NRA course I'd recommend you visit a school that offers some more in depth training. Front Sight, Gunsite, Thunder Ranch or a host of other schools (some more local and less expensive than the three I mentioned) so that you can at least be minimally effective at (safely) defending yourself. ...Even if the very idea of being attacked and trying to defend yourself in an adrenaline soaked and horror filled moment cannot be considered "safe" at all! Anyway, if a basic course is all you can do then I hope you at least do that.

    I remember taking my CCW course though I had been carrying awhile anyway and thought I was doing ok. I then went to Front Sight and realized how flipp'n much I did NOT know and gained an appreciation for the reality of what a gun fight could serve up. So much so that I got a membership and have since taken my sons and my wife!

    My hope for all new gun owners is to get as much training as they can. Wouldn't you agree with that?
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    After reading and commenting on this thread I would recommend you do not carry.

    You clearly do not have enough experience to do it safely. Legally, yes. Safely, no.

    How many rounds have you put through your pistol at the range? How many NRA or CCW classes have you taken? The answer to the last question should be never enough. How many times have you pulled your gun out of you holster at night?

    You should train. Train and train and train. Here is where you should start: Massad Ayoob Group

    If you can't afford his class find one you can. Take as many NRA classes as you can find. Read Ayoob's and Chuck Taylor's books.

    You can carry, many of us can carry, but you should be confident and qualified to carry. If you ever have the unfortunate burden of actually having to kill a human being you should be as close to understanding there was NEVER another option.

    Please train. Please.
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    Agree with all, if it's a comfort thing... other posts have recommended this,
    get some snap caps, ensure no live ammo around load 2 magazines with snap caps, put your weapon on how you plan on carrying (and in condition 1) "INSIDE YOUR HOUSE ONLY" and wear it around trying different chairs ect... This will help you with comfort of safety and that the weapon wont fire without your finger on the trigger and adjusting how your weapon rides. But most of all attend training.

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