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    I would not transport the gun nthrough NYC without written permission from the NYC Commissioner of Police. If caught you will be arrested and challenged to defend yourself regardless of state or federal law. The last thing you want is a gun possession charge on your record as you're then required to notify the issueing county.
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    Default Thanks a lot guys....

    Seems like my weapon is staying home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy861 View Post
    I have a NYS CCW as I am a resident of Ulster County. I have to travel over the next few weeks onto Long Island. My quandary is am I allowed to possess my weapon albeit in a locked safe in the trunk separate from the ammo? Reason why I ask is because I desire no problems in Bloombergville.
    Just getting off the seriousness of your question but isn't "Bloombergville and confusion" the same thing?

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    Why isn't Bloomy in jail yet? He jails people for violating NYC laws while violating Federal Laws himself.
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    Short Lesson on NYC and guns: If you have a gun for which you have no NYC permit, DO NOT go to NYC with that gun. If you are caught there with such a gun, you can expect to loose the gun permanetly, as well as cough up a wad of money to a lawyer for their "services" in advising you and negotiating with the Prosecutor on your case to get the felony arrest charged as a misdemenor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    Why isn't Bloomy in jail yet? He jails people for violating NYC laws while violating Federal Laws himself.
    When you are a progressive liberal democratic piece of garbage you are given a pass for anything you do. You see they are the only ones who know what is best for the rest of us and, therefore, anything they do is only for your benefit.

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    You are allowed to carry anywhere in NYS but the 5 boroughs of NYC. no problem in Nassau or Suffolk counties. As far as travelling through the city, you may not stop your journey for any reason other than for gasoline. No food, nothing. While travelling through the boroughs, the gun MUST be unloaded, cased and locked with ammo separately cased and locked.

    I know this because as a NYC permit holder and expert I have much experience with this. The problem that we have all read and heard about regarding people getting arrested and in big time trouble is because they were caught or voluntarily admitted possessing guns in NYC, the city being their destination, not while travelling through it. Show me one example where someone was arrested travelling through NYC from a locale where they were licensed to carry to another where they were licensed to carry and were arrested. I guarantee you are legal if you follow my directions.

    There is no need whatsoever to call and notify anyone nor get permission from anyone. While I am sick and tired of all the BS that the city makes law abiding citizens go through, and the way visitors are treated when carrying in error, the laws are not confusing. Maybe convoluted, but not confusing... It is very simple. NYC doesn't recognize CCW from anywhere or anyone that is not LEO or a NYC CCW. Again, while I disagree with the ways of NYC in this matter am I am sick and tired of people making bull$&@( up about how the city operates. It is asinine yes, but straightforward. SORRY.

    Anyway, regarding the OP, as long as he follows my directions whic fall under FOPA he will be fine. My final word is this... Even if he follows the letter of the law as I have outlined, that doesn't mean some JO cop who doesn't know the law won't arrrest him if the possession should somehow come to light. How that would be I do not know. i.e. Don't speed through or have a kilo of coke in the trunk. But the problem of LEOs who are ignorant of the law can happen anywhere not just NYC, as we have all seen and read about in numerous cases regarding open carry etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYMike View Post
    You are allowed to carry anywhere in NYS but the 5 boroughs of NYC. no problem in Nassau or Suffolk counties. As far as travelling through the city, you may not stop your journey for any reason other than for gasoline. No food, nothing. While travelling through the boroughs, the gun MUST be unloaded, cased and locked with ammo separately cased and locked.

    I know this because as a NYC permit holder and expert I have much experience with this. The problem that we have all read and heard about regarding people getting arrested and in big time trouble is because they were caught or voluntarily admitted possessing guns in NYC, the city being their destination, not while travelling through it. Show me one example where someone was arrested travelling through NYC from a locale where they were licensed to carry to another where they were licensed to carry and were arrested. I guarantee you are legal if you follow my directions.

    There is no need whatsoever to call and notify anyone nor get permission from anyone. While I am sick and tired of all the BS that the city makes law abiding citizens go through, and the way visitors are treated when carrying in error, the laws are not confusing. Maybe convoluted, but not confusing... It is very simple. NYC doesn't recognize CCW from anywhere or anyone that is not LEO or a NYC CCW. Again, while I disagree with the ways of NYC in this matter am I am sick and tired of people making bull$&@( up about how the city operates. It is asinine yes, but straightforward. SORRY.

    Anyway, regarding the OP, as long as he follows my directions whic fall under FOPA he will be fine. My final word is this... Even if he follows the letter of the law as I have outlined, that doesn't mean some JO cop who doesn't know the law won't arrrest him if the possession should somehow come to light. How that would be I do not know. i.e. Don't speed through or have a kilo of coke in the trunk. But the problem of LEOs who are ignorant of the law can happen anywhere not just NYC, as we have all seen and read about in numerous cases regarding open carry etc...
    Pretty much what I was saying... NYC is only as scary as people make it, and those people are the ones for one reason or another don't take the time to do their own fact finding. I had lots of fun in NYC, but as a NYS CCW holder I knew never to hop on the train into Grand Central Station or pick up family & friends from any of the NYC area airports armed. Otherwise, treat driving through NYC as if you were driving through Illinois & you're fine. Yes, I did drive through Illinois to Missouri a couple of times with my sidearm... cutting through NYC on the return trip. No issues because I knew not to cause any. Know the letter of the law where you're traveling to and all points in between, whether you agree with it or not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYMike View Post
    You are allowed to carry anywhere in NYS but the 5 boroughs of NYC. no problem in Nassau or Suffolk counties. As far as travelling through the city, you may not stop your journey for any reason other than for gasoline. No food, nothing. While travelling through the boroughs, the gun MUST be unloaded, cased and locked with ammo separately cased and locked.

    I know this because as a NYC permit holder and expert I have much experience with this. The problem that we have all read and heard about regarding people getting arrested and in big time trouble is because they were caught or voluntarily admitted possessing guns in NYC, the city being their destination, not while travelling through it. Show me one example where someone was arrested travelling through NYC from a locale where they were licensed to carry to another where they were licensed to carry and were arrested. I guarantee you are legal if you follow my directions.

    There is no need whatsoever to call and notify anyone nor get permission from anyone. While I am sick and tired of all the BS that the city makes law abiding citizens go through, and the way visitors are treated when carrying in error, the laws are not confusing. Maybe convoluted, but not confusing... It is very simple. NYC doesn't recognize CCW from anywhere or anyone that is not LEO or a NYC CCW. Again, while I disagree with the ways of NYC in this matter am I am sick and tired of people making bull$&@( up about how the city operates. It is asinine yes, but straightforward. SORRY.

    Anyway, regarding the OP, as long as he follows my directions whic fall under FOPA he will be fine. My final word is this... Even if he follows the letter of the law as I have outlined, that doesn't mean some JO cop who doesn't know the law won't arrrest him if the possession should somehow come to light. How that would be I do not know. i.e. Don't speed through or have a kilo of coke in the trunk. But the problem of LEOs who are ignorant of the law can happen anywhere not just NYC, as we have all seen and read about in numerous cases regarding open carry etc...
    This is not entirely correct. New York state and NYC have completely different provisions. This post does not reflect the state licensing law under which your permit is granted.

    A permit issued under NYS Penal Law A400 is not valid anywhere in the city of NY. You must obtain prior written permission from the city prior to transporting a handgun through.

    NYS PL §400.00(6) License Validity: A license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver, not otherwise limited as to place or time of possession, shall be effective throughout the state, except that the same shall not be valid within the city of New York unless a special permit granting validity is issued by the police commissioner of that city. This is the law plain and simple. If you violate it expect to be arrested.

    Article 400 goes on to say you may not transport the gun without this permission unless you purchased it within the city and then only while transporting it DIRECTLY home in a locked, opaque container.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy861 View Post
    I have a NYS CCW as I am a resident of Ulster County. I have to travel over the next few weeks onto Long Island. My quandary is am I allowed to possess my weapon albeit in a locked safe in the trunk separate from the ammo? Reason why I ask is because I desire no problems in Bloombergville.
    O yea try sifting through New Jersey gun laws.

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