Help with DesMoines, IA municipality laws

[doublebarr]

Going to DesMoines next month for 3 days for daughters regional BB tourney (have two girls on the team, only have 7 girls total on the team, and the team is 15-3 so far :) *mom brag moment*) and I have been reading up on Iowa gun laws and have State carry covered, but cannot find anything on any municipal laws for Des Moines. Anyone have a government link to the laws there?

[MCMXI]

Cities don't make gun laws, states do. A municipality can't pass a law that supercedes a state law as far as I know. I'm not a lawyer, but as long as you follow the state laws, you should be fine.

[KABOOKIE]

Chicago isn't a city?

[doublebarr]

Cities don't make gun laws, states do. A municipality can't pass a law that supercedes a state law as far as I know. I'm not a lawyer, but as long as you follow the state laws, you should be fine.

Three words: New York City
That is what I am trying to avoid.

[KABOOKIE]

Case in point. Kansas is an open carry state. However, the city of Wichita is not. Try explaining to the judge he has no authority to supersede state law at your hearing.

[KABOOKIE]

Also, why can I reply to post but can't start one?

I have s similar question about Kansas laws.

[NavyLCDR]

Cities don't make gun laws, states do. A municipality can't pass a law that supercedes a state law as far as I know. I'm not a lawyer, but as long as you follow the state laws, you should be fine.

That only applies in states where the legislature has written a law, called a preemption statute, which prevents cities from restricting firearms further than state laws. According to:

OpenCarry.org - State Information For Iowa

Iowa does have full preemption, therefore Des Moines would be prohibited from having their own ordinances.

To doublebarr:

Keep in mind it is against Federal law to possess a firearm that is not unloaded and locked in a case within 1000' of the premises of a school, unless you possess a permit issued by the state in which the school zone is located (in this case, an Iowa permit). (With a couple other exceptions such as private property)

[Garrysr]

I live in Des Moines, and to my knowledge, we don't have any city laws. I am accompanying my wife to her permit class this weekend, and will try to make sure that is the case.

[doublebarr]

That only applies in states where the legislature has written a law, called a preemption statute, which prevents cities from restricting firearms further than state laws. According to:

OpenCarry.org - State Information For Iowa

Iowa does have full preemption, therefore Des Moines would be prohibited from having their own ordinances.

To doublebarr:

Keep in mind it is against Federal law to possess a firearm that is not unloaded and locked in a case within 1000' of the premises of a school, unless you possess a permit issued by the state in which the school zone is located (in this case, an Iowa permit). (With a couple other exceptions such as private property)

This is what is worrying me:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/a...AGOp03_4_1.pdf

I dont' know if it's moved beyond this yet and I don't care to be the "test case" if it has :).

Also, we are part of the National Homeschool Tournament. We do not have "school buildings" but rent venues to play at. Fortunately, none are schools that we start out at. Depending on how well we do, I might have to use the hotel safe the last day or not as the finals are at the University, but thank you for pointing that out.


Garysr - would appreciate anything you can add IF your instructor is staying current on local issues. I may have to just call the DesMoines PD Public Affairs department to get a law cite though.

[NavyLCDR]

This is what is worrying me:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/a...AGOp03_4_1.pdf

I dont' know if it's moved beyond this yet and I don't care to be the "test case" if it has :).

Did you notice this part in the document you linked to?

find that the statute does not interfere with the authority of a city to exercise its home
rule power to place restrictions upon the possession of weapons which apply only to
buildings owned or directly controlled by the city.

Are you going to be any buildings owned or directly controlled by the city?