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    Went to the store today and apparently made one guy rather angry. As I was driving through the parking lot, a guy in his truck started to back out of his parking spot and did not like me forcing him to stop as I drove by (I had the right of way anyway).

    Anyway, I pull into a spot and get out of my car to walk into the store and sure enough there is a truck blocking my car in with a guy yelling at me. Pretty much every insult in the book came out of his mouth at me. I listened for the first 5 seconds and then decided enough was enough and turned my back to him without a word and continued into the store. Along with the insults, he invited me to fight him.

    After in the store, he parked his truck outside of it and waited for me. After a minute he drove away.


    That was my experience but it leaves me wondering. Of course, the one time I decide to leave my CCW in my car (because I had gym shorts on), I get invited to fight a guy. Lets say this was you and you did have your CCW on you. If the guy got out of his truck and started coming at you wanting to fight, what would you do?

    My reaction was to leave the situation. Surprisingly, this worked because he stop waiting for me and did not pursue me. (He was notably more angry that I walked away from him which led me to believe he would follow me). But if he had pursued me, I would certainly have called 911 first. However, if he backed me into a corner while still coming at me, I was not sure what I would do when I first imagined this. After further thought, assuming 911 was called, I came to the conclusion that I would have to either prepare for a fight, or prepare to use my weapon. I do not like the thought of getting into a fight with an angry guy, nor do I like the thought of having to prove to a jury that I feared for my life before letting the man start beating me. For all I know, he could be a bad fighter, or he could be a very strong fighter who could easily cause severe bodily harm. Either way, I would not like to find out which one he is. Any thoughts?

    One last comment- The more I think about situations like this, the more I think if I had been open carrying, the guy probably would have been deterred the second I stepped out of my car.

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    i think you did the right thing by walking away.
    and i'm glad he didn't try to continue trying to pick a fight with you
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    It's amazing how juvenile adults can be..lol, I mean seriously, a grown-ass man starting a fight in a parking lot? what an idiot.

    I think you did the right thing, just walk away. Let that fool go home & beat his dog.

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    If you live in a "stand your ground state" you would still face an uphill battle if you even pulled your gun. Many factors would be taken in to decide if the threat was real, like his physical size compared to you, your ability to avoid the confrontation...etc....
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    I think you made the right choice by walking away. I had a similar but not nearly as aggressive situation today when I crossed the road in a parking lot in the cross walk where I had a right away because their is a yield sign for drivers but I guess I did not walk fast enough for the car that was coming down the road. He had to slow down some and must have gotten mad because he stopped and rolled down his window to yell some words at me. I just kept walking.

    People are just too self centered and some adults are more immature than some teens I know.

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    Is this a store that you frequent a lot? Maybe he does too. If so, then next time you see that truck, try to get the plate number and description for possible future reference. A snap shot of it would be great. Also his physical description.

    Also try to remember and type in a text file on your computer in the "My Documents" folder all of this just in case you have another encounter or hear of a similar story at a latter date, maybe on the news, that somebody got beat up by some screwball in that lot. This guy sounds like an aggravated assault just looking for a place to happen.

    I'm sure the cops would love to get that info.
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    I don't think the decision to fight the guy or not should have anything to do with you having a firearm.

    If you wouldn't fight him without one, why on earth would you fight him with one? This is not self defense...

    Just my 2 cents worth, as a fellow CCW holder who carries.

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    You did the right thing by walking away. If he had pursued, and if you had your gun on you, I would call 911. If he posed any threat of bodily harm to you and you did not have the chance to talk him down or escape, then you can draw. Just remember that it's your last line of defense, but that it becomes your primary defense if you fear threatened and cannot escape.

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    You had the right of way. Great. Maybe a little courtesy would have avoided this whole thing. You know, stop and let him back out of his spot which can be a challenge in many busy parking lots. Unless you were going to fast to do that.
    So if you had your gun on you you would risk in escalating an already stupid situation. If you did many people here would be lamenting the fact that you made things look bad for the rest of us that legally carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    Went to the store today and apparently made one guy rather angry. As I was driving through the parking lot, a guy in his truck started to back out of his parking spot and did not like me forcing him to stop as I drove by (I had the right of way anyway).

    Anyway, I pull into a spot and get out of my car to walk into the store and sure enough there is a truck blocking my car in with a guy yelling at me. Pretty much every insult in the book came out of his mouth at me. I listened for the first 5 seconds and then decided enough was enough and turned my back to him without a word and continued into the store. Along with the insults, he invited me to fight him.

    After in the store, he parked his truck outside of it and waited for me. After a minute he drove away.


    That was my experience but it leaves me wondering. Of course, the one time I decide to leave my CCW in my car (because I had gym shorts on), I get invited to fight a guy. Lets say this was you and you did have your CCW on you. If the guy got out of his truck and started coming at you wanting to fight, what would you do?

    My reaction was to leave the situation. Surprisingly, this worked because he stop waiting for me and did not pursue me. (He was notably more angry that I walked away from him which led me to believe he would follow me). But if he had pursued me, I would certainly have called 911 first. However, if he backed me into a corner while still coming at me, I was not sure what I would do when I first imagined this. After further thought, assuming 911 was called, I came to the conclusion that I would have to either prepare for a fight, or prepare to use my weapon. I do not like the thought of getting into a fight with an angry guy, nor do I like the thought of having to prove to a jury that I feared for my life before letting the man start beating me. For all I know, he could be a bad fighter, or he could be a very strong fighter who could easily cause severe bodily harm. Either way, I would not like to find out which one he is. Any thoughts?

    One last comment- The more I think about situations like this, the more I think if I had been open carrying, the guy probably would have been deterred the second I stepped out of my car.
    Regardless of any stand-your-ground law I would retreat quietly. I prefer not to engage him if at all possible. If he wants to engage he needs to work for it. He needs to make a scene and attract witnesses. I'm not interested in needing an attorney over a parking spot road-rage incident. In states hat have a duty to retreat, the retreat requirement applies only prior to the engagement. Once the action starts the victim is no longer required to retreat so of course I would have met force with force in protection of myself. For a guy who waits I would definitely get LE involved and ruin his day. Once you file the charge don't ever let him off.

    Also... one thing about carrying... if you're gonna carry a gun then carry it.
    Last edited by BC1; 06-25-2012 at 01:02 PM. Reason: spelling
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