Inform the officer or not when concealed carry?

[wolfhunter]

[QUOTE=maybejim;74600]You do not have to present your carry permit to the officer in Idaho unless it's a very recent change.

I don't understand how it is courtesy to notify an officer. Is it courtesy to tell him you have a carton of milk and a box of twinkies?[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's a courtesy. You should phrase this as, "Officer, I have some milk and a box of Twinkies. Would you like some?"

[utimmer43]

You do not have to present your carry permit to the officer in Idaho unless it's a very recent change.

I don't understand how it is courtesy to notify an officer. Is it courtesy to tell him you have a carton of milk and a box of twinkies?

HA! First thing I thought was "Insert donut joke here," but Wolf beat me to it.

[maybejim]

[quote=wolfhunter;74612]

You do not have to present your carry permit to the officer in Idaho unless it's a very recent change.

I don't understand how it is courtesy to notify an officer. Is it courtesy to tell him you have a carton of milk and a box of twinkies?[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's a courtesy. You should phrase this as, "Officer, I have some milk and a box of Twinkies. Would you like some?"

With my luck, I'd be arrested for bribing an officer.

[rayven]

As long as you are not involved in criminal activty there will be no problem

This is precisely why I *DON'T* inform. If I'm not engaged in criminal activity, I have no reason to even have a conversation with a LEO. Why inform him that I'm carrying -- so he can possibly freak out and think I'm out to kill him?

To me as a private citizen, it is my duty to hold LEOs accountable to the laws and rules -- just like they do to us. One of those rules is the right of citizens to live freely without government interference. If I'm carrying legally, a LEO can't do anything about it, so why create a possible negative situation where none existed?

[mike5757]

The information I wrote was what the Sheriff Office told me when I recieved my Permit.And by the way,our cops dont eat twinkies and milk.They are hardcore its coffee and doughnuts so dont offer them no twinkies.

[queball]

Maybe it is because I am in a gun friendly state (Utah), but I see way too much paranoia about this subject. The vast majority (I do not say all, but the vast majority) of LEO are CCW friendly, and should be assumed as such. Notifying IS a courtesy, and I will always do it, no matter where I am. That is just me, do as you will.
You are right, that in most places, by law, you are not required to do so. Guess what, by law, your local LEO can write you up for doing 36MPH in a 35MPH zone, but, as a courtesy to you, 99+% of them will not do it. Unless you are over 40MPH, they probably won't even bother pulling you over to warn you. Call it a common courtesy, whatever, but most of the LEO's out there are on OUR side. Treat them as such, and give them the benefit of the doubt. There are way too many people that seem to constantly be "hearing the black choppers".

[Ironhorse]

Hear, hear queball!! Having come up in a family of LEO's, I was taught to respect all LEO's. Keep your hands in plain sight, answer all questions "Yes, Sir" and "No, Sir." Even if you choose to disagree - disagree RESPECTFULLY. That being said, if a LEO chooses to disarm me for the duration of our transaction, so be it. HE still has a gun, and I sincerely doubt that someone is going to take him out, then me, in those few minutes. Yes, there are a few jerks working in Law Enforcement - it's inevitable, the law of odds and all that - but even if you don't respect the man wearing it, respect the badge.

[Cityboy]

Hear, hear queball!! Having come up in a family of LEO's, I was taught to respect all LEO's. Keep your hands in plain sight, answer all questions "Yes, Sir" and "No, Sir." Even if you choose to disagree - disagree RESPECTFULLY. That being said, if a LEO chooses to disarm me for the duration of our transaction, so be it. HE still has a gun, and I sincerely doubt that someone is going to take him out, then me, in those few minutes. Yes, there are a few jerks working in Law Enforcement - it's inevitable, the law of odds and all that - but even if you don't respect the man wearing it, respect the badge.

I would have mixed feelings about an officer disarming me after he's been notified that I'm cc during a routine traffic stop. Believe it or not, a lot of LEO are not "gun" people. Meaning, they qualify with it and that's about it. What if a rookie decides he wants to do so, but his familiarity is with glock and he disarms me of a 1911 that he may or may not be familiar with? All of the variables make me shudder. Just saying, I have mixed feelings about it.

[Glock Fan]

I would have mixed feelings about an officer disarming me after he's been notified that I'm cc during a routine traffic stop. Believe it or not, a lot of LEO are not "gun" people. Meaning, they qualify with it and that's about it. What if a rookie decides he wants to do so, but his familiarity is with glock and he disarms me of a 1911 that he may or may not be familiar with? All of the variables make me shudder. Just saying, I have mixed feelings about it.

+1 I agree. I've done LEO firearms training classes where there were LEO who had problems with a few types of semi-autos as well as a SA and DA revolver. If they're gonna disarm me, I would like to see them render the firearm "safe" before simply putting it down somewhere. Handling a loaded gun is serious business. Simply putting down an unholstered LOADED gun could be dangerous.



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[MyMrMarty]

In most Counties in Tennessee if they run your DL they will see your Handgun Permit. It is a good idea to hand the Officer your Permit when you give them your DL. This seriously reduces the stress of a officer sitting in his patrol car first learning about it over the radio. In Tennessee it is not a CCW but a Handgun Carry Permit. In some Rural areas it is common nowdays to see open carry.