"Mental Illness" prohibitions on CCW permits

[BradAnderson]

Brad
I guess I have to ask the question I always ask. Is there no appeal process in your state? We have 30 days to appeal
After denial. the court must put your appeal ahead of all else on the docket. If your issueing body says no is that it?

An appeal is only for when the board makes a MISTAKE-- NOT if you simply disagree with the law, since they can't change it.

And there's no mistake made, if they turn you down based on the law-- since the law DOES require that people with "mental illness" can't get a CCW (again, the law defines mental illness as "any nervous condition that prevents a person from dealing with everyday life", completely irrespective of whether they're a danger to themself or others-- the mob has spoken).

To change the law, you have to take it to the state supreme court-- and not many people have the money to do that, particularly if they HAVE a condition that "keeps them from dealing with everyday life;" it's how the powerful oppress the powerless, through making them an offer they can't re-use, i.e. "you can take it to court if you don't like it--" when the reality is that most people don't have the MEANS to challenge a law in court, particularly those most VULNERABLE to abusive laws.

If you call up the courthouse and ask how to do it, they'll tell you to get a lawyer or go to the law-library--i.e. neither are viable options, since lawyers cost lots of money, and law-libraries don't tell you. It's just bureacratic imperialism.

[TooCalm]

My psychology instructor is a Dr. She told the class that in order for her to get paid by the insurance company; she has to assign a mental disorder to every patient she sees. That means: Everyone who gets any kind of care from a mental health provider is going to be Stigmatized (For the rest of their lives.) as Mentally Ill.
My CCW permit is being withheld by the Catawba Co. NC. mental health dept. (3 years now.) The reason they gave me for withholding my permit is according to them; (I have a serious substance abuse problem.) I made the mistake of telling them I had smoked pot 25 years ago, and at that time 15 years ago, I drank beer at home, after work, every day. I was told that for ONLY 118 dollars I could have a substance abuse evaluation, and IF I passed I would get the permit. The director said; (It is nothing to worry about, lot's of people have to do it!) At 118 dollars each that's a lot of extortion money. I was Lied to and used for my insurance by them, and I know that I will be out 118 dollars if I were to pay the corrupt Bastards for the evaluation.
To this day, I do not have a criminal record, not even a DWI. But my name is in the mental healths departments records and I am mentally Ill by Their Standards; So Everyone Beware; If you talk to a Mental Health Provider for any reason, You will be Stigmatized as Mentally Ill Forever! PS. The 5th and 14th amendment's right to due process; The mental health people do not have to follow it. That Doctors word is the word of GOD!!

[danhammondsr]

My psychology instructor is a Dr. She told the class that in order for her to get paid by the insurance company; she has to assign a mental disorder to every patient she sees. That means: Everyone who gets any kind of care from a mental health provider is going to be Stigmatized (For the rest of their lives.) as Mentally Ill.
My CCW permit is being withheld by the Catawba Co. NC. mental health dept. (3 years now.) The reason they gave me for withholding my permit is according to them; (I have a serious substance abuse problem.) I made the mistake of telling them I had smoked pot 25 years ago, and at that time 15 years ago, I drank beer at home, after work, every day. I was told that for ONLY 118 dollars I could have a substance abuse evaluation, and IF I passed I would get the permit. The director said; (It is nothing to worry about, lot's of people have to do it!) At 118 dollars each that's a lot of extortion money. I was Lied to and used for my insurance by them, and I know that I will be out 118 dollars if I were to pay the corrupt Bastards for the evaluation.
To this day, I do not have a criminal record, not even a DWI. But my name is in the mental healths departments records and I am mentally Ill by Their Standards; So Everyone Beware; If you talk to a Mental Health Provider for any reason, You will be Stigmatized as Mentally Ill Forever! PS. The 5th and 14th amendment's right to due process; The mental health people do not have to follow it. That Doctors word is the word of GOD!!

Look like you might be out of luck in NC.

Requirements:
The sheriff shall issue a permit within 90 days after receipt of a complete application to an applicant who:
• is a citizen of the U.S. and has been a resident of the State for at least 30 days immediately prior to filing the application;
• is at least 21;
• does not suffer from a physical or mental infirmity that prevents the safe handling of a handgun;
• has successfully completed an approved firearms safety and training course which involves the actual firing of handguns and instruction in the law governing the carrying of a concealed handgun and the use of deadly force;
• is not ineligible under federal or state law to possess, receive, or own a firearm;
• is not currently or has not been adjudicated or administratively determined to be lacking mental capacity or mentally ill;
• has not been discharged from the armed forces under conditions other than honorable;
• is or has not been adjudicated guilty or judgment continued or suspended sentence for a violent misdemeanor;
• has not had judgment continued for or free on bond or personal recognizance pending trial, appeal, or sentencing for a disqualifying criminal offense;
• has not been convicted of an impaired driving offense within three years prior to the date on which the application is submitted.

Since the requirements include the phrase "adminstratively determined" they leave the door open for any "mental health provider" to put something in your record that disqualifies you. It's time to get active with your state legislative representatives and get the law changed to require adjudication of mental issues.