What state has the best CCW

[R&M]

Not sure about Utah but Fl will accept your military service (current or former) as required training.
Thanks for your service.

[kelcarry]

The real "best carry" state still comes down to the "best case law/jury decisions" in a state. It may be as simple as paying a small fee and putting a stamp on an envelope but it is what happens AFTER you have exercised your understanding of a state's CC law and have to face the investigation and disposition of your particular circumstance. Any comments on how these states (ie Utah and FL) fair on the final disposition of actual shootings?

[vn6869]

Originally Posted by kelcarry

The real "best carry" state still comes down to the "best case law/jury decisions" in a state. It may be as simple as paying a small fee and putting a stamp on an envelope but it is what happens AFTER you have exercised your understanding of a state's CC law and have to face the investigation and disposition of your particular circumstance. Any comments on how these states (ie Utah and FL) fair on the final disposition of actual shootings?

Kinda agree, except this question is more of matter of what state the shooting takes place in, not where issued.

Why isn't Penn listed??

P.S. thanks for your service.

[tattedupboy]

A couple of other states to think about are North Carolina and Michigan. Both of those stats' licenses are honored in more states than Florida's and Utah, but with a catch. MI and NC only issue licenses to residents, and Michigan, while it's permit is widely honored and it honors permits from every state, but only if the person is a resident of the state from which the permit is issued (meaning that nonresident FL and UT licenses are a no-no there). Furthermore, if you reside in MI, you'll be required to register your handguns.

[kelcarry]

Based on the reply from VN6869. let me rephrase my question. It seems this thread has touched on several states that seem to have easier CCWP requirements and some states seem to have more CCWP reciprocity, but which states, assuming we are talking about a CCW shooting by an individual in the same state that issued the CCWP, have the best record of siding with the CCWP shooter (I keep thinking about the fellow in TX who, while on the phone with 911, went over to his neighbor's house and killed two guys breaking into the house while the 911 operator was pleading with him to wait in his own home for the police and do not go over there); of course this comes down to the specific circumstances of each case but does anyone have a "feel", based on news articles etc of the most CC "shooting friendly" states ---just asking out of curiosity even if, on second reading, my question sounds a little "funky" to me. I can tell you that in some recent cases in SC, there were no charges brought in cases that I kind of looked a little askance at--then again I did not have the facts as presented to the prosecutor.

[hibby76]

It's my understanding that when you have a permit, state laws still apply. For example, if you have a Utah permit and travel to Colorado, your permit is honored as if it was a Colorado permit. You're still required to honor Colorado state law. In the event that there is an "incident", what matters is where it occurred, not which state permit you're holding.

I don't think it matters whether your in CO with a CO permit or CO with a UT permit. I think everything applies exactly the same.

This is my opinion. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

As for your initial question, I think Utah permits give you a couple extra states compared to Florida. Use this map to check it out.

[AvidshooterTX]

I love Texas. Great story: When I had been here only a few weeks they led the news with the acquittal of a guy who had chased a perp (who had burgled his girl's van) down the street and shot him in the back 3 times, killing him. Back in my birth state of PA he would have gone to prison. He was tried in the most liberal of all Texas cities - Austin. The District Attorney who lost the case was asked by the news reporter why the jury acquitted him. In his Texas drawl he replied "well, you have to understand: this guy had a record as long as your arm and the jury just decided he NEEDED KILLING". He didn't even seem upset that he had lost! At our CCW class we have to learn the Texas deadly force laws. The Texas gun laws still have a section titled NECESSITY. Basically, it was looked upon as doing society a favor. It didn't seem to matter that the shooter didn't know anything about the guy's record.

[kelcarry]

Recent ad in our Charleston SC local paper from a local gunshop indicates that in addition to offering the SC CCWP class they are now offering a Utah CCWP class that expands CC permission to 29 states (I think the SC permit gets you into only about 5 or so states). I guess Utah has something goin for it if you want to travel around with your CCW.

[mrjam2jab]

Originally Posted by kelcarry

Recent ad in our Charleston SC local paper from a local gunshop indicates that in addition to offering the SC CCWP class they are now offering a Utah CCWP class that expands CC permission to 29 states (I think the SC permit gets you into only about 5 or so states). I guess Utah has something goin for it if you want to travel around with your CCW.

UT and FL are both highly sought after Non resident permits.

UT has recip with 32states: AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MO, MN, NE, NH, NC, ND, NM, OH, OK, PA, SD, TN, TX, VT, VA, WA, WV, WY

FL has recip with 33 states: AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, DE, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, MI, MS, MO, MN, NE, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, VA, WV, WY

CO, FL, ME, MI, NH and SC do not accept non-resident permits.

Merger each of those lists with your SC recip and see how many states you will be covered in.

[StogieC]

There is no additional training requirement for military in FL. Just submit a copy of your active duty ID or a DD-214 for vets.