Titles are un-American.
Securing for Readily Accessible Car Carry If you have a readily accessible gun in your car, how do you keep it secure and ready for use? I've heard of some people putting it in gloveboxes, but I really don't want to have to reach over and dig through that with a second or two to spare. I have a small car with a center console...I'm pretty sure it would work great to put it muzzle down in there, if I could find a center console holster that would do the job. That also has the advantage of providing a very swift draw - flipping the lid open is far quicker than reaching into an IWB.
Does anyone else have a spot that works? Mounting a holster to the underside of your dash...under the seat...?
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It depends on your state law whether you can conceal a weapon in your car and not on yourself. In SC anyone can carry a loaded handgun as long as it is in the center console or in the glove compartment and it doesn't have to be locked. I usually just throw an extra weapon with a pocket holster in my center console when I'm out and about. Easy to get to and legal.
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To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them... -- Richard Henry Lee, 1787
My feeling is that I want my weapon on me all the time. No "car carry" for me. ;)
ALWAYS carry! ~ NEVER tell!
If i am carrying in the car,i usually have the gun in an uncle mikes kydex holster and i put it between my seat and the console.It is easily accesible and i can cover it with a small hand towel if i choose,or just leave it uncovered for fast easy access.
car carry options Good question, toreskha. I get by with tucking my piece under my left thigh. I can only do this with my j-frame or kel-tec p3at. The p99 is too big. An option for full size weapons is a "Kingston rig" named after Kingston, Jamaica. This kind of rig is strapped to the seat and holds the gun on the front of the seat between your knees with the muzzle down. Yet another option is a roto-holster from Fobus. They make various mounts for vehicles. I hope this gives you ideas. Post a review if you pick something up.
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Titles are un-American.
Of course you want it on you - but try drawing that while sitting in the car; it might be difficult on short notice. Keep your concealed weapon on you; a "car gun" can be bigger and doesn't have to be concealed quite as well.Originally Posted by Sgt. SIG
This could be useful during an attempted carjacking, for car trouble, if you pull up to your house and realize something is wrong, etc.
No sir... drawing from my IWB holster is not difficult at all because I have practiced it. Being separated from my weapon would be very difficult indeed.
You don't see police officers removing their weapons and placing them in their car or keeping a spare "car gun". If anyone was going to need their weapon on short notice while in the car it would be the police officer.
Also, I know of no law enforcement or civilian firearms training that advocates separating yourself from your weapon.
Nope, I do not believe it's realistic or practical. ;)
ALWAYS carry! ~ NEVER tell!
Titles are un-American.
I don't recall saying anything about separating oneself from their weapon.
LEOs typically have a choice between their sidearm which is in an external holster, and other options, such as a shotgun or rifle (this is in effect a "car gun"). Except for some undercover operations, they generally aren't faced with having to draw a concealed weapon while sitting in a car with a seatbelt on.
Obviously, you have your regular weapon on you at all times. It's on you whether you're in or out of the car. That's a foregone conclusion.
Additionally, many people carry a second or third alternate weapon in their car - in an area that can be quickly accessed, and more quickly than in their waistband in a sitting position. For example, under the dashboard, between the seat and center console, in the map console on the door, etc.
Maybe if you drive vehicle with lots of room, an IWB would be the quickest method possible, but it's a different scenario with big people who drive small cars. I have a hard time getting anything out of my pockets, much less out of a concealed holster. Thus, I want to get an additional gun to keep in the car.
My take is that it isn't efficient but is practical for the average Joe. The fact is that many people who carry practice on the range but a sizeable number who own firearms don't. Several states allow carry in the vehicle separately from carrying concealed. Even for those who get in a couple of range sessions a month, practicing drawing your firearm while sitting down in a bucket seat is simply not something that is safe or easy to work on.
As for the police officer situation I see that as very different. Maybe some of our LEO's can comment but I suspect a big factor for on-duty officers is the amount of time that they are hopping in and out of their cars, leaving the windows down and the vehicle not fully secured. Long guns are usually locked to the dash or secured in the trunk. Having to put your pistol in the console, lock/unlock and reholster/unholster every time you get in and out would be a real pain as well as slowing down your response and movement significantly. The more you touch the gun, the more chance of an accident. Hollywood aside, I am not sure cops still try to shoot from moving vehicles during chases and are usually out of their cars when a weapons up situation occurs.
Personally, I usually carried SOB unless I was in a restricted area or long drive and was always comfortable and confident. Occasionally, I placed the weapon (holstered) between the seat and console or in the console itself depending on the car and the gun.
Think through the likely scenarios, assess your skills (strengths and weaknesses), then do what seems tactically best given safety, danger, etc.
Reality, DEAL with IT!
M. Todd Bayliss
I bought a strap on cover thing from Walmart to keep the kid's feet from destroying the back of the passenger seat. Then the other day I realized that, when I am sans kidlet, I can put my .357-Uncle Mike's IWB combo in the behind-the-seat pocket. The seat cover thing keeps it out of sight, but I can still easily draw it if need be.
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