In Illinois need a ccw

[rideon20z]

im in illinois today i went to Indiana to try and shoot my pistol but they told me that i didnt have a ccw and i should not of brought it into the state . how do i get a ccw so i can shoot in the state of indiana ? please help

[Couzin]

There are over 100 ranges in IL to shoot at - why not try one of them - problem solved... Goto Shooting Range - National Registry

[rideon20z]

o i do but it was just convient to go there its like 30 min away and i could shoot my AR-15 there also i wil have to look for an outdoor range here in illinois

[Couzin]

You could always leave the Peoples Republic of Illinois and come to Texas - we would love to have you and your guns...

[rideon20z]

im sure that you would but it gets to hot there for me !!!

[utimmer43]

Originally Posted by rideon20z

im in illinois today i went to Indiana to try and shoot my pistol but they told me that i didnt have a ccw and i should not of brought it into the state . how do i get a ccw so i can shoot in the state of indiana ? please help

Originally Posted by rideon20z

o i do but it was just convient to go there its like 30 min away and i could shoot my AR-15 there also i wil have to look for an outdoor range here in illinois

None of this makes any sense. A CCW is not required by law to drive to the range. Now, while doing so, your handguns should be unloaded and locked in the trunk. As for your AR-15, not only do you not need a CCW to transport it in IN, but while in IN you may have it loaded while it is in the passenger compartment as long as it remains in plain view (assuming it is a rifle). Of course, the folks at the range probably would like you to unload it before taking it out of your car. Even if it is an AR pistol, you would just have to keep it unloaded and in the trunk, but there is no reason you would need a CCW to go to the range with it.

That being said, a CCW from another state wouldn't be a bad idea even if you don't leave IL very often. I recomend a UT permit, although they are taking about 4 months to get right now.

[netentity]

Under the letter of IC 35-47-2-2, in IN you do need a LTC to carry handgun to and from any place except your place of business, residence or gunsmith. There is no exemption for going to a range.

Under IC 35-47-2-21, if you have any CCW issued anywhere in the world you are legal in IN as long as you are not an IN resident.

Your best solution if you must go to an IN range is get a PA LTC. Just pay your $26 to Centre County and you'll get your PA LTC back providing you pass the background check. There is no training requirement to get a PA LTC. Center County PA Sheriff Nau is very pro-RKBA. Since IL does not have a civilian CCW law, you don't need one from your home State to get a PA LTC.

[rideon20z]

ok thanks and for utimmer43 that is what the DNR told me that i ws unable to bring my handgun into indiana without a CCW card ? i just thought it would e convienent to shhot my rifle there why not bring my hand guns also ? untill he told me that i couldnt

[utimmer43]

Originally Posted by netentity

Under the letter of IC 35-47-2-2, in IN you do need a LTC to carry handgun to and from any place except your place of business, residence or gunsmith. There is no exemption for going to a range.

Wow, my bad. Sheesh, if you can't take your gun to the range, where can you take it? Lame. I am curious though, what about a gunsmith/ gun dealer who also has a range on his premisis? It does not specify that it must be to have it repaired.

IN could use a "freshening up" of their firearms laws. But then, what state couldn't?

[netentity]

Originally Posted by utimmer43

Wow, my bad. Sheesh, if you can't take your gun to the range, where can you take it? Lame. I am curious though, what about a gunsmith/ gun dealer who also has a range on his premisis? It does not specify that it must be to have it repaired.

The IC is pretty clear. You can buy one and take one in for repair outside of transporting it to and from your home or place of business. If your handgun does not need repair then obviously you're not taking it to a place of repair. You might be able to get away under the letter of IC to use the range at the place of purchase immediately after you bought it.

Originally Posted by utimmer43

Wow, my bad. Sheesh, if you can't take your gun to the range, where can you take it? Lame. I am curious though, what about a gunsmith/gun dealer who also has a range on his premisis? It does not specify that it must be to have it repaired.

Yes it does, IC 35-47-2-2 states;

IC 35-47-2-2
Excepted persons

Sec. 2. Section 1 of this chapter does not apply to:

(1) marshals;
(2) sheriffs;
(3) the commissioner of the department of correction or persons authorized by him in writing to carry firearms;
(4) judicial officers;
(5) law enforcement officers;
(6) members of the armed forces of the United States or of the national guard or organized reserves while they are on duty;
(7) regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive such weapons from the United States or from this state who are at or are going to or from their place of assembly or target practice;
(8) employees of the United States duly authorized to carry handguns;
(9) employees of express companies when engaged in company business;
(10) any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms or the agent or representative of any such person having in his possession, using, or carrying a handgun in the usual or ordinary course of that business; or
(11) any person while carrying a handgun unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his dwelling or fixed place of business, or to a place of repair or back to his dwelling or fixed place of business, or in moving from one dwelling or business to another.

As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

While IN is a pro-RKBA State, you do need to understand the logistics of the law. Since the range owner the OP has referenced is aware of this quirk in the IC, I suggest the OP get a PA LTC if the OP wants to continue to use their handguns on ranges in IN. IN has a restricted LTC for target and hunting only.