Black Talons

[longslide10]

Another post made me think of this. How many of you remember Black Talon ammo? Well I have some, purchased before they were wrongfully banned by the whiny lib/dems as cop killer ammo. I wonder what the DA would say about the use of them in a self defense situation where the bg died? Would he/she then twist the facts to suit the court and make me out to be some renegade vigilante criminal because I used banned ammo that I legally purchased b4 the ban or do you think they would not even consider the type of ammo used? I may place a call to my county DA and Sheriff to find the answer and if I do I'll post the results

[sheppsj]

I use the Winchester Ranger T. I believe it to be the same bullet minus the Teflon coating. I've also wondered the same question.

[longslide10]

Don't cops use that ammo?

[fuhr52]

As long as you considered the plight of the bad guy and understood the hard life he has had to endure and what drove him to attack you. I'm sure the DA would at that point consider your act as self defense. On the other hand the DA may be running for re-election and you bought this ammo, even though legal at the time, to kill some one.

[Phillip Gain]

Another post made me think of this. How many of you remember Black Talon ammo? Well I have some, purchased before they were wrongfully banned by the whiny lib/dems as cop killer ammo. I wonder what the DA would say about the use of them in a self defense situation where the bg died? Would he/she then twist the facts to suit the court and make me out to be some renegade vigilante criminal because I used banned ammo that I legally purchased b4 the ban or do you think they would not even consider the type of ammo used? I may place a call to my county DA and Sheriff to find the answer and if I do I'll post the results

Black Talon bullets were never banned, or in any way made illegal.

Following the Long Island Railroad Mass Murder in 1993, Black Talon ammunition attained notoriety in the media and with the anti-gun lobby. Subsequently, one of the shooting victim's family members filed a lawsuit against Olin, Inc, trying to hold them responsible for the victim's death. The lawsuit, however, was dismissed.

Winchester discontinued the public sale of Black Talon line of ammunition later in 1993. In 2000, they discontinued the line entirely. The current Ranger SXT ammunition is the same as the Black Talons, but without the black lubalox coating.

Source:
Black Talon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ricardo900]

Don't cops use that ammo?

Yes, "Winchester Ranger" many police agencies use that ammo and Winchester puts "Law Enforcement Ammunition" on the box, implying this ammunition is for Law Enforcement officers only and some gun places won't sell it to civilians.

[The_Outlaw]

Another post made me think of this. How many of you remember Black Talon ammo? Well I have some, purchased before they were wrongfully banned by the whiny lib/dems as cop killer ammo. I wonder what the DA would say about the use of them in a self defense situation where the bg died? Would he/she then twist the facts to suit the court and make me out to be some renegade vigilante criminal because I used banned ammo that I legally purchased b4 the ban or do you think they would not even consider the type of ammo used? I may place a call to my county DA and Sheriff to find the answer and if I do I'll post the results

Just do yourself a huge favor to avoid any possible future legal hassles.
Use up the old black talon ammo during target practice somewhere and carry some 'politically correct' brand new self defense ammo like; (CorBon, HydraShocks, Critical Defense, etc.)
No need to be doubting the legality of your ammo choice imho.

[Oldgrunt]

As long as you considered the plight of the bad guy and understood the hard life he has had to endure and what drove him to attack you. I'm sure the DA would at that point consider your act as self defense. On the other hand the DA may be running for re-election and you bought this ammo, even though legal at the time, to kill some one.

fuhr: You are absolutely right. We must follow the example of the UK and protect those poor, mistreated and under-priviledged miscreants. After all, why should they have to do without just so you can lead a peaceful, humdrum life? They can take our lives in order to better themselves. Who would deny them those opportunities? Perish the thought!

[festus]

Black talons were never ever teflon coated. THAT IS A FALSEHOOD!!!!! That lie was put out by the media to demonize that round.

Black Talons were Black (in color only) Anodized for corrosion prevention and protection of the bullet and to make it feed more reliably than any other self defense round.

Winchester Lawman SXT are the to coin a phrase Same Xact Thing)

whoever is out there saying that the talon rounds are illegal, is incorrect. They are only illegal in Jersey where ALL HOLLOWPOINTS ARE BANNED FOR CIVILIAN USE without a special license from the state

[cpio]

Actually, hollowpoints are legal to possess in New Jersey depending on the circumstances, e.g., from the gun shop to the range, in your home or on your property, etc.