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Old 04-21-2008, 12:02 PM
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Here in TN, you have no "power of police" with a HCP. I'm only authorized to draw if my life is in imminent danger. Under no circumstances can I (nor would I want to) detain someone. I'll leave it at that.
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This was my first hit in Yahoo, worth a visit, but only for a gag! Cool audio/visuals.
http://www.ou.edu/oupd/selfarr2.htm :robocop:
Then I ran across this, more like what I was looking for link:
http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm (dated 1994) and I saw an 1833 Tennessee ref, grain of salt kinda dated entry.
Massachusetts law as of 1981 is NOT a place I'd even like to slap the cuffs on Obama, sorry, I meant Osama-bin-Laden :19:, slight slip of the tongue :k: I guess. :blink1:
As of 1933 Kentucky law holds U better arrest a fleeing perp or it's trouble for U: "Indeed, Kentucky citizens are permitted to kill fleeing felons while making a citizen's arrest (Kentucky Criminal Code § 37; S 43, §44.)" I will remember that next time I'm considering felony speeding through Frankfort's suburbs! Utah says sure arrest a perp but don't use deadly force, I guess stern words are all you get to detain your slipping Mormon :25: as he/she tags the Seagull Monument located downtown in Salt Lake City. :embarrest: Kalifornia just list a load of lawyer links for wrongful arrest, cop brutality torts to gay/bi burgler rights!
On Sep 27, 2007 1000 people issued a citizen's arrest warrant against George W. Bush, at the U.N. in NYC, I wonder just how many of them got an IRS tax audit that year! From the Wiki-pedia version which is long and very general, I only have 415,000 hits left on Google to scan running: 'Citizens Arrest USA' . I will post a link to a web-site if I find a current one that covers all U.S. states laws on the muti-faceted angles of effecting a legal Citizens Arrest, and maybe it will become a life/liberty-saver USA Carry link for our patrons use. In the mean time I continue to learn from what USA Carry patrons are posting, thanks :icon_smile:
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:25 PM
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It depends.How do you define 'arrest'?If I,or one of my family was attacked and I did not kill the bas--um,perp,or I caught someone in the act of committing a heinous crime and,again,did not kill him in defense of my or someone els's life I would not try to affect an actual arrest.If I could convince him/her to lie face down on the ground(the danger of a .40S&W round going through,and subsequently shredding their brain might help with the convincing),I would hold them there untill the police arrive and let THEM arrest him/her.That's what I pay them for.But I would not,myself,arrest them.
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:29 AM
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I was unaware of this information regarding the "citizens arrest" policy; however, I would find it unnecissary to get involved in such an altercation with the help of law enforcement at the touch of a phone. A vigilant society is an unhappy society.
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At what point do we have responsability to help. I think Ron Will is right on. You may be the only thing between someone living and not.
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An arrest exposes you to too much liability and means that you get questioned that much more by lawyers. If it's a real self-defense situation, then treat it like one - draw your gun and fire. If it is not an actual life-or-death situation, then do not present your weapon. Talk your way out and go home. There's really no reason to make an arrest.
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I was unaware of this information regarding the "citizens arrest" policy; however, I would find it unnecissary to get involved in such an altercation with the help of law enforcement at the touch of a phone. A vigilant society is an unhappy society.
"Touch of a phone" works fine if you live next door to the local cop-shop, but how long do you think it may take a county cop to respond to your casa in the middle of say nowhere New Mexico, 'next gas 150 miles' type of place. Maybe a nice game of Scrabble with the drifter who U found trying to jack your wheels who is now staring at the wrong end of your shooter, and some cold beer while you wait? Never mind, just shoot 'em I guess and bury the remains in the desert works where way-rural Protect & Serve is a 3 hour response after calling 911. :7: City thinking 101.

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"Touch of a phone" works fine if you live next door to the local cop-shop, but how long do you think it may take a county cop to respond to your casa in the middle of say nowhere New Mexico, 'next gas 150 miles' type of place. Maybe a nice game of Scrabble with the drifter who U found trying to jack your wheels who is now staring at the wrong end of your shooter, and some cold beer while you wait? Never mind, just shoot 'em I guess and bury the remains in the desert works where way-rural Protect & Serve is a 3 hour response after calling 911. :7: City thinking 101.

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Bury? Desert...plenty of time...hey, that's a perfectly good mummy! Just get $100 in gauze and your kid will have an awesome project for school!

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"Touch of a phone" works fine if you live next door to the local cop-shop, but how long do you think it may take a county cop to respond to your casa in the middle of say nowhere New Mexico, 'next gas 150 miles' type of place. Maybe a nice game of Scrabble with the drifter who U found trying to jack your wheels who is now staring at the wrong end of your shooter, and some cold beer while you wait? Never mind, just shoot 'em I guess and bury the remains in the desert works where way-rural Protect & Serve is a 3 hour response after calling 911. :7: City thinking 101.

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Okay...... I suppose if I am out in BFE and dont have a phone I or if I had to wait an extenssive amount of time for law enforcement to show up, yeah I would do something. I suppose I am thinking more logically, and what would actually happen in my "real world" situations.
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"Touch of a phone" works fine if you live next door to the local cop-shop, but how long do you think it may take a county cop to respond to your casa in the middle of say nowhere New Mexico, 'next gas 150 miles' type of place. Maybe a nice game of Scrabble with the drifter who U found trying to jack your wheels who is now staring at the wrong end of your shooter, and some cold beer while you wait? Never mind, just shoot 'em I guess and bury the remains in the desert works where way-rural Protect & Serve is a 3 hour response after calling 911. :7: City thinking 101.

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