Philly Daily News - Obama breeds fear, fear breeds gun sales, gun sales breed death

[51percent]

Jill Porter: Fear breeds gun sales - and gun sales breed death | Philadelphia Daily News | 02/18/2009

Jill Porter? Where do these people come from?

COLD-HEARTED savage has murdered another Philadelphia police officer, and the city buckles, once again, in horror and disbelief. It's an unrelenting plague, and its agent of death is - guns.

And the horrifying fact is that more guns than ever are being purchased in this country as uneasy people arm themselves in fear: Fear of a reversal of gun rights under President Obama. Fear for their safety in an economy that drives people to desperation.

Sure, I know: many are legal guns, bought by responsible gun owners who don't kill people, blah blah blah.

But my math is simple: The more guns in circulation, the more that find their way to the dregs of society who casually assassinate cops.

And there are more guns in circulation than ever.


No No, Jill: Gun sales breeds protected people..

Guns are not the agents of death - criminals are. The only fear is in your own little liberal mind.

I'll bet you a million dollars that the cop was killed by a criminal thug who had no legal standing to own a gun but had one anyway. Criminals don't buy guns at gun stores after an extensive background check.

This article was nothing more than frightened rhetoric and emotional hand-wringing over guns, when it should be more focused on criminal control. Taking away MY guns would NOT have prevented this.

[Glock Fan]

I'm sending her a dollar with a note telling her it's so she can buy herself a clue.



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[Cavalry Doc]

Another case of "true-true- & unrelated"

Any chance she took and did well in a logic class, ever?

[Cooter]

Silly gun grabbing liberals...ya can't help but feel sorry for the dumbasses

[Glockster20]

Originally Posted by 51percent

Jill Porter: Fear breeds gun sales - and gun sales breed death | Philadelphia Daily News | 02/18/2009

Jill Porter? Where do these people come from?

COLD-HEARTED savage has murdered another Philadelphia police officer, and the city buckles, once again, in horror and disbelief. It's an unrelenting plague, and its agent of death is - guns.

And the horrifying fact is that more guns than ever are being purchased in this country as uneasy people arm themselves in fear: Fear of a reversal of gun rights under President Obama. Fear for their safety in an economy that drives people to desperation.

Sure, I know: many are legal guns, bought by responsible gun owners who don't kill people, blah blah blah.

But my math is simple: The more guns in circulation, the more that find their way to the dregs of society who casually assassinate cops.

And there are more guns in circulation than ever.


No No, Jill: Gun sales breeds protected people..

Guns are not the agents of death - criminals are. The only fear is in your own little liberal mind.

I'll bet you a million dollars that the cop was killed by a criminal thug who had no legal standing to own a gun but had one anyway. Criminals don't buy guns at gun stores after an extensive background check.

This article was nothing more than frightened rhetoric and emotional hand-wringing over guns, when it should be more focused on criminal control. Taking away MY guns would NOT have prevented this.

Me thinks you should post your comment on the article page.....

[johnsteele]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Another case of "true-true- & unrelated"

Any chance she took and did well in a logic class, ever?

She's a modern "journalist." Journalists stopped dealing in facts 50 years ago.

[Piece Corps]

There are more BGs on the street because the bleeding-heart liberals won't send them to prison or death row for doing the crimes they commit.

Do the math: the pplulation of the U.S. (and the world, for that matter) has increased a WHOLE LOT! (Duh!) More people, more crime. And we pass more laws instead of enforcing the ones we already have on the books, so more criminals.

Then we arrest someone who committed a crime with a gun, and in most states, this is a mandatory prison term of at least 10-20 years. But in order to "speed things through the legal system," we let the defense lawyer plea it down to a non-gun offense, and the BG walks after a year or so, or even after "time served."

So more BGs on the street, who could care less that they are breaking the law by having an illegal gun, bought in some back alley.

And if stopping people from having guns would stop gun crime, then we'll soon hear that gun shops should be illegal, because BGs can rob gun shops. Well, then dis-arm the cops, because BGs steal guns from cops. And we can't let any of these miscreants have ANY access to guns.

Give it up, lady! Soon you'll be outlawing cars, airplanes, motorcycles, butcher knives, blenders, and table saws, because, by gawd, somebody could get hurt, or even killed, using those things. And our government is duty-bound to protect us against ourselves. I have a suggestion for her - go live in Asia, where the government takes care of every aspect of your life. That way, you don't need to be responsible for anything.

[Glockster20]

Originally Posted by Piece Corps

There are more BGs on the street because the bleeding-heart liberals won't send them to prison or death row for doing the crimes they commit.

Do the math: the pplulation of the U.S. (and the world, for that matter) has increased a WHOLE LOT! (Duh!) More people, more crime. And we pass more laws instead of enforcing the ones we already have on the books, so more criminals.

Then we arrest someone who committed a crime with a gun, and in most states, this is a mandatory prison term of at least 10-20 years. But in order to "speed things through the legal system," we let the defense lawyer plea it down to a non-gun offense, and the BG walks after a year or so, or even after "time served."

So more BGs on the street, who could care less that they are breaking the law by having an illegal gun, bought in some back alley.

And if stopping people from having guns would stop gun crime, then we'll soon hear that gun shops should be illegal, because BGs can rob gun shops. Well, then dis-arm the cops, because BGs steal guns from cops. And we can't let any of these miscreants have ANY access to guns.

Give it up, lady! Soon you'll be outlawing cars, airplanes, motorcycles, butcher knives, blenders, and table saws, because, by gawd, somebody could get hurt, or even killed, using those things. And our government is duty-bound to protect us against ourselves. I have a suggestion for her - go live in Asia, where the government takes care of every aspect of your life. That way, you don't need to be responsible for anything.

As always.... a very intelligent response!! I really enjoy your posts PC!

[Boomboy007]

IMHO, part of the issue would be a need to make prisons truly unpleasant places to be. First, I would separate violent criminals from non-violent offenders. Non-violent offenders would be able to stay at minimum security facilities with privileges like communal meals, communal exercise, access to television, etc.

For violent offenders, they get a cell of their own, however small we need to make it. Meals are served in the cell. You throw it at the server, you lose that meal. With good behavior you get the ability to attend classes, either through remedial GED systems, or the state college system. For college classes, you may only major in fields that would allow for a person with a violent felony to secure a job (i.e. no education majors, because schools will not hire felons convicted of violent crimes to teach). No more television, period. No communal time outside of classes. No opportunity for an inmate to attend "prison university" in order to learn how better to terrorize the population after leaving the facility. The lack of communal time will also severely reduce or eliminate the transmission of HIV while locked up (no opportunity).

Finally, and probably most contentious: No visitors other than your attorney. If you violate someone else, you do not get to see your family or friends while you are in. Letters, pictures; okay. F2F, not until you get out.

[ricbak]

Originally Posted by Boomboy007

~IMHO, part of the issue would be a need to make prisons truly unpleasant places to be.~

+1 on this Mr 007. This issue has to be addressed. There is something wrong when It is a badge of honor to be a parolee and to be looked up to in your community.
Our state budgets can not continue support these style of country clubs.
Michigan HR4437 posted today (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...9-HIB-4437.pdf) for the Michigan Department of Corrections is truely frightning.
I could rant on about this prison thang and the 8th Amendment. When is it concidered cruel and unusal not to have TVs?