Pizza Delivery Man Kills Would Be Robber

[12not6]

A Pizza Hut delivery man in Columbia, SC shot and killed a would be robber (17 years old) on Saturday evening (3/7). The delivery man had a concealed weapons permit and the police indicate he will NOT be charged. He indicated he had been robbed before and feared for his life since he has a young child.

Three others were charged as accomplices. The three survivors reportedly left their wounded friend but did abscond with the pizza. The shooter later apologized to the parents of the dead teenager.

Unfortunately, the delivery man did lose his delivery job since Pizza Hut does not permit its employees to carry weapons.

I don't know what Dominos (and others) may have as their policy but I for one will no longer purchase from Pizza Hut.

Pizza man says fear he'd die led to shooting - Breaking News - The State

[gdcleanfun]

According to the article, the others allegedly involved in the robbery sat across the street eating the stolen pizza while their accomplice lay dying? Do you see anything wrong there? Callous just doesn't describe it. Then again, I realize that criminals just don't care. Nope, they don't! Sure 'nuf!

[HK4U]

Originally Posted by gdcleanfun

According to the article, the others allegedly involved in the robbery sat across the street eating the stolen pizza while their accomplice lay dying? Do you see anything wrong there? Callous just doesn't describe it. Then again, I realize that criminals just don't care. Nope, they don't! Sure 'nuf!

When I was a kid my mom used to have a saying, "there is no honor among thieves".

[BluesStringer]

Originally Posted by 12not6

I don't know what Dominos (and others) may have as their policy but I for one will no longer purchase from Pizza Hut.

Pizza man says fear he'd die led to shooting - Breaking News - The State

I drove for Domino's off and on for about 15 years. I now drive big rigs over the road. Might as well boycott every franchise that offers delivery and every product that is delivered to retail stores via big trucks. They all have no weapons policies at the corporate level. The franchisee or manager of your local Pizza Hut or Domino's has no choice at all in enforcing these policies. They're a condition of their contract, the ignoring of which will get their franchise license yanked faster than a quick-draw trick-shooter can pop off 6 rounds and reholster (that's under 2 seconds for the fastest shooters around).

I commend this Pizza Hut driver, but I don't feel sorry for him for losing his job. He knew without any doubt that every day he strapped on his weapon, he made the choice to defend himself even at the cost of losing his job in so doing. I say good for him, he made the right and smart choice, including putting his life ahead of his livelihood. Jobs like that are a dime a dozen though. He'll either go straight to Domino's or Papa John's, or he'll do another smart thing and take this opportunity to get started in a career that will provide well for him and his family for the rest of his working life, something that delivering pizza has no chance whatsoever of doing.

I'm thrilled to read that he won't face charges from the government. But Pizza Hut's policy isn't analogous at all to a government that routinely threatens our 2nd Amendment rights. Just as the government should stay out of people's lives who use deadly force lawfully and legally, corporations should be allowed to set employment policy that provides them the least amount of legal liability exposure as possible. Corporations that institute no weapons policies don't do it because they're anti-gun, they do it because they're anti-getting-sued. I worked for two different franchisees while at Domino's and both are avid hunters and one is an ex-Marine who has one of the wildest gun collections I've ever laid eyes on. Both of 'em hated the policy as much as I did, but that's life. It wasn't their call to make to live with, enforce or even protest the policy. Of course, I never asked, but I'm reasonably sure that at least one of 'em lived under the policy the same way I did. I took it as a suggestion and chose for myself whether or not to follow it, and kept my mouth shut about it, just like it sounds like this Pizza Hut driver did until he couldn't keep quiet due to extenuating circumstances.

All that said, and I sincerely believe it all, you can bet your bottom dollar that I did and still do carry every time I leave the house. I've been carrying for over 20 years. No one will ever enforce a no weapons policy with me, at least not in a way that disarms me. Luckily for me, I've never had to show or use my weapon while on the job, but if it ever comes to that, I'll use it exactly as I would if I were off the job, and then I'd drive my rig to the nearest company terminal, clean it out and turn in the keys. Next I'd start looking for another job, just like this Pizza Hut driver will do. It really ain't no thang.

Blues

[FN1910]

I think that carrying a gun should be required of a pizza delivery job and it should be publicized. Maybe if the BG know that the delivery guys are armed they will think twice about trying to rob them. The idea is just give them the money and there will not be any problems is fine but doesn't work in real life.

[Glockster20]

Originally Posted by FN1910

I think that carrying a gun should be required of a pizza delivery job and it should be publicized. Maybe if the BG know that the delivery guys are armed they will think twice about trying to rob them. The idea is just give them the money and there will not be any problems is fine but doesn't work in real life.

Agreed. Carrying should be allowed. However, IMO publicizing them as being armed could cause an armed BG to shoot first. Just something to think about.

[CathyInBlue]

I drove for Dominoes for all of two months, carried a gun every hour I was on the clock.

There needs to be a liberty-preserving law passed that constrains corporate policies, including insurance policies, from constraining the gun rights of a person not on corporate property.

[CathyInBlue]

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[Piece Corps]

So the guy loses a crap job delivering pizzas? He is still alive, and one more punk is no longer a danger to society. I'm sure the pizza guy needed the money - I wouldn't take a job like that (or a convenience store cleck on the mid-shift) unless I was living on the streets.

I hope he finds another job, but he saved his life, and will continue to come home to his wife and kid. And that's what counts. And I can't stand Pizza Hut products anyway, so any boycott wouldn't affect me.

[chudak25]

Originally Posted by FN1910

I think that carrying a gun should be required of a pizza delivery job and it should be publicized. Maybe if the BG know that the delivery guys are armed they will think twice about trying to rob them. The idea is just give them the money and there will not be any problems is fine but doesn't work in real life.

Originally Posted by Glockster20

Agreed. Carrying should be allowed. However, IMO publicizing them as being armed could cause an armed BG to shoot first. Just something to think about.

+1 For Carry.

I do think the delivery guys should carry, I know I would if I had that job, but probably not advertize it. Otherwise the BG's, can always call a pizza place to have them deliver and come away with a weapon by having some sort of an ambush set up. Then, who knows where that gun can end up at.