Robber sues store he robbed

[kelcarry]

Hye Bongo Boy: You have seen it many times on many posts on this forum; depending on your state, shooting someone in the back is going to leave open a lot of questions and second-guessing by prosecutors and juries. Do not get me wrong, I would applaud you for doing so and cleaning some of the scum off this earth, but I am just sayin----

[agksimon]

Originally Posted by billwot

Castle Doctrine laws protect you against criminal charges being filed against you. Unfortunately, they offer no protection from civil actions.

I have read in Ayoob's columns many times that if you shoot somebody, no matter how justified, you WILL be sued. Our CC instructor (40 years as a LEO) said the same thing.

Your best bet is to kill the BG, and hope he has no living relatives or dependents.

bill

WRONG! In Michigan, if no criminal charges are brought against you, you cannot be sued. The bill below was signed into law and took effect on October 1, 2006
Most other states that have the "Castle Doctrine" laws now give the same immunity.


STATE OF MICHIGAN
93RD LEGISLATURE
REGULAR SESSION OF 2006
Introduced by Reps. Moore, Jones, Pavlov, Baxter, Marleau, Casperson, LaJoy, Shaffer, Stakoe, Hune,
Hildenbrand, Garfield, Hansen, Newell, Nofs, Polidori, Robertson, Rocca, Sheltrown, Kahn, Mortimer,
Elsenheimer, Taub, Hummel, Kooiman, Drolet, Gosselin, Farhat, Acciavatti, David Law, Espinoza and
Gleason
ENROLLED HOUSE BILL No. 5548
AN ACT to amend 1961 PA 236, entitled “An act to revise and consolidate the statutes relating to the organization
and jurisdiction of the courts of this state; the powers and duties of such courts, and of the judges and other officers
thereof; the forms and attributes of civil claims and actions; the time within which civil actions and proceedings may be
brought in said courts; pleading, evidence, practice and procedure in civil and criminal actions and proceedings in said
courts; to provide remedies and penalties for the violation of certain provisions of this act; to repeal all acts and parts of
acts inconsistent with or contravening any of the provisions of this act; and to repeal acts and parts of acts,” (MCL 600.101
to 600.9947) by adding section 2922b.
The People of the State of Michigan enact:
Sec. 2922b. An individual who uses deadly force or force other than deadly force in self-defense or in defense of another
individual in compliance with section 2 of the self-defense act is immune from civil liability for damages caused to either
of the following by the use of that deadly force or force other than deadly force:
(a) The individual against whom the use of deadly force or force other than deadly force is authorized.
(b) Any individual claiming damages arising out of injury to or the death of the individual described in subdivision (a),
based upon his or her relationship to that individual.Enacting section 1. This amendatory act takes effect October 1, 2006.
Enacting section 2. This amendatory act does not take effect unless all of the following bills of the 93rd Legislature
are enacted into law:
(a) Senate Bill No. 1046.
(b) Senate Bill No. 1185.
(c) House Bill No. 5142.
(d) House Bill No. 5143.
(e) House Bill No. 5153.
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[kelcarry]

Hey agksimon and billwot: You have to check your state laws; several if not many states have that provision in their CC/PP laws--if you are not guilty under the prevailing law, you are excused from any and all civil liabilities. Some states are just redefining and fine tuning their laws to incorporate this feature as part of a more sane approach to what this is all about--protecting you and not making the scum rich.

[billwot]

As i posted previously:

Originally Posted by billwot

Well, I'm pleased to learn that the Castle Doctrine in at least some states does protect the GG from civil action. Thanks to the several members that posted info about the specifics of those states.

bill

[glock21]

I think most laws are about the same. " Once the threat against you is no longer a threat , you cannot use force against them." Therefore if a criminal is leaving the scene, you are not allowed to shoot them.
I don't agree, but the law is the law.

Hope I didn' t offend anyone.