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This is a discussion on Has anyone seen this and is it true within the Firearm Politics & 2nd Amendment Issues forums, part of the Main Category category; Originally Posted by HK4U There were many in Germany that did not see what was coming until it was to ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    There were many in Germany that did not see what was coming until it was to late. There will always be those that live in the 51st state of the union, The state of denial. In fact many are in a perpetual state of denial.
    Well said HK. Unfortunately, those that wish for this utopian world without guns will find that they are the ones without guns while the dictators have them all. Gun control is the biggest friend of dictators. A government of the people by the people does not fear lawful citizens having arms, look at Switzerland. Seems no one wants to attack a people that know how to defend themselves. Unfortunately, unless the patriots of America stand up, the vocal minority will once again win out. It is time to send a message to Washington that we are a land of laws through the constitution, not the UN. Perhaps wishful thinking at this point in time, but the outcomes will be better if we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTTAHERE View Post
    Do not make the mistake of thinking that gun control can not happen to us in the US!!! Do not trust anything, and I mean
    anything, this administration says! It could be possible to "try" to disarm us through a Small Arms Treaty and it could possibly
    to ratified by our own Congress, but don't lull yourself into thinking that "it can't happen here, this is America". Well, I've got
    news for anyone who still thinks that. It's not the America that most of us grew up in, fought for and love and chances are
    we're going to have to fight for it again. Stay vigilant!
    BINGO this last part you who doubt need to take note of:

    "it can't happen here, this is America". Well, I've got
    news for anyone who still thinks that. It's not the America that most of us grew up in, fought for and love and chances are
    we're going to have to fight for it again.

    This isn't the America I grew up in and help defend against people such as obama and crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronwill View Post
    This has been talked about several times. The U.N. has tried to negotiate a worldwide small arms treaty for several years. The thing to remember is that, first, the SCOTUS has already ruled that no treaty can be made that removes or restricts a right on American soil. Secondly, all treaties have to be ratified by the House and Senate. That, even now, is a very slim chance.
    He's right, they did and a treaty that goes against the 2A cannot be upheld once it reaches the SCOTUS. Much like the health car bill will be struck down as well, it was not an enumerated power in the Constitution.

    But even if....

    US military
    Active personnel 1,473,900
    Reserve personnel 1,458,500

    How many of those are Oath Keepers?

    There are 250,000,000 firearms in private hands of 70-80,000,000 in the US, with the number of firearms rising about 4,500,000 per year.

    If even JUST 4% of them.... well, ya know.

    You do the math.

    It ain't gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unfettered Might View Post
    He's right, they did and a treaty that goes against the 2A cannot be upheld once it reaches the SCOTUS. Much like the health car bill will be struck down as well, it was not an enumerated power in the Constitution.

    But even if....

    US military
    Active personnel 1,473,900
    Reserve personnel 1,458,500

    How many of those are Oath Keepers?

    There are 250,000,000 firearms in private hands of 70-80,000,000 in the US, with the number of firearms rising about 4,500,000 per year.

    If even JUST 4% of them.... well, ya know.

    You do the math.

    It ain't gonna happen.
    At one point and time I would have agreed with you butg not anymore. Do you actually think SCOTUS will over turn obama care? SCOTUS will soon have two mirror images of obanma sitting on the high court bench One has already been appoint and the other one is a sure fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrebnc1861 View Post
    This is part of the treaty.
    *** Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding citizens cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally;*** CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL “unauthorized” civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course);

    *** BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons;

    *** Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION.
    Me thinks you've been watching to much C-Span. If you read the comment directly above yours you will see why this would be damned hard for HRC & BHO to accomplish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrebnc1861 View Post
    At one point and time I would have agreed with you butg not anymore. Do you actually think SCOTUS will over turn obama care? SCOTUS will soon have two mirror images of obanma sitting on the high court bench One has already been appoint and the other one is a sure fix.
    They cannot do otherwise, it is the duty of their position to uphold the Constitution more than anyone, except us.

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    I would not put it pass these SOB's to try some garbage like that. I mean, why do you think Obama has so many Czars? With these Czars, he can manipulate things around Congress to suit his needs. In the logic side of my heart, if there is such a thing, I think they would be biting off more than they could chew in the long run. Just remember to get out and vote in November!

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    To Unfettered Mike
    They cannot do otherwise, it is the duty of their position to uphold the Constitution more than anyone, except us.

    It is also the "duty" of the President, all Senators and Congressmen to uphold the Constitution. Do you see THAT happening?
    SCOTUS can "interpret" many things in the Constitution just about any way they want to and if you don't happen to like
    their interpretation, exactly what can you do about it; legally? Besides, Congress (the Legislative Branch) is supposed to be
    the only ones who can make or change any laws or even offer an amendment to the Constitution, yet they sit back and watch this administration, hell they even assist it, in shredding the Constitution or letting the Executive Branch skirt around
    the Constitution. Examples? Let's see: GM, Chrysler, AIG, National Health Care (More Control) Bill and probably Cap and
    Rape Bill to follow. Pay attention people!!!
    Kill them all and let God sort them out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hamberger View Post
    Me thinks you've been watching to much C-Span. If you read the comment directly above yours you will see why this would be damned hard for HRC & BHO to accomplish...
    Again, health care "reform" was made law by doing many unconstitutional things, like bribery. Please don't disregard the the recent history of this congress. You will go to bed one night a free Amserican and wake up this next moring with no freedoms, no way to legally defend yourself, and be and illegal gun owner. Because of a treaty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unfettered Might View Post
    They cannot do otherwise, it is the duty of their position to uphold the Constitution more than anyone, except us.
    There is nothing in the Constitution that directs SCOTUS in how to interpet the Constitution.
    Let's use the latest 2nd Amendment "VICTORY" as an example.


    The Supreme Court, in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 290 (2008), ruled as follows:

    The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home....



    SCOTUS also ruled that the second amendment like most rights are not unlimited it is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for what ever purpose

    Now a lower court judge can rule that a citizen does not have the right to carry a firearm outside his home. Or that a citizen does not have the right to keep certain weapons. Who's to say that a judge could not interpet this to say you cannot not keep a 12 gauge pump.

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