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Talking to politicians about gun laws

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    Let's face it, the way politics is played these days is for politicians to say whatever is attractive to the audience currently in front of them, but to actually DO as little as possible, so as not to lose ANY votes in the next election. The only way to move issues along is to threaten their hold on political office. And the only way to do that is to mobilize a very large voting block which will actually vote against them if they do not get an issue "done". NRA is the largest such group for gun issues, but simply because it is so large, it is unable to really "connect" with the average gun owner and get him/her to act together with others to get our issues passed, or else get rid of politicians who are against us.

    When talking to the pols, IMHO it's best to give them the ammunition to sway reasonable men and women in their political houses. And, Keep It Simple! The basic three stances on guns are:

    1) All citizens ought to be disarmed and guns should be banned (except for the military and LEOs). People who believe this are saying that government can, one way or another, ACTUALLY protect ALL citizens from criminals, and can totally prevent the use of force against honest people. That is obviously NOT the case. Also, no gun ban has ever succeeded in actually disarming a populace, even in dictatorships, not even in prisons! - it simply cannot be done. This viewpoint creates more crime AND more criminals, since there is less likelihood that criminals will be caught or killed, and that crime will be punished.

    2) People who have passed "inspection" and been properly vetted, checked, and trained, MAY be issued licenses to (sometimes, in some places) carry weapons, but must conceal them so as not to upset others or make them feel threatened. This is a dangerous viewpoint to the public. It says that it's OK for non-LEO civilians to "entrap" criminals - to look like easy victims but then produce guns and ambush them This viewpoint inherently acknowledges that people ARE going to get shot, and maybe killed, and that there WILL be collateral damage to lawabiding gun owners and to innocent bystanders. These are unavoidable effects of legalizing concealed carry without legalizing open carry. It creates more shootings and more woundings and injuries, but little crime deterrent value.

    3) People who have passed "inspection", etc., can be licensed to carry weapons openly. This viewpoint acknowledges that crooks ARE deterred from committing crimes when they see weapons being openly carried by their intended victims. This viewpoint creates less crime WITHOUT creating more shooting victims. HOWEVER, it is politically unpopular for two reasons:

    A) Because most of our population have been "spoon fed" the pacifist-liberal point of view that we ought to be passive and let Big Brother "take care of us" - and that that is even possible (it is not). This is the viewpoint promoted by politicians themselves, because it gives them more power.

    B) Because of (A) above, open carry WILL be opposed by a majority of the population, and the politicians will therefore have an excuse to avoid passing it, EVEN THOUGH it results in less crime and fewer shootings.

    Fixing this situation is a large-scale job of many people spreading this message for a very long time - it is a job of educating the public, and it will take YEARS. It already HAS taken years. The only way to speed it up is to "train the trainers" better and have more of them. Keep the message simple, keep it consistent, and keep it unavoidably, inarguably, TRUE!

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    There should be term limits on all politicians.

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    There are term limits. Its called voting them out of office.

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    The liars and the cheats and everything else in between......how can the populace win when most of them have the opinions without walking the walk and talking the talk? Time to stop this country from being a Greece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer826 View Post
    There are term limits. Its called voting them out of office.
    Those aren't forced. How do you get rid of a bad politician if id10ts keep voting them in? Senators should get 2 terms, Representatives should get 5 terms. Then be gone with no other benefits. None of this being in Congress for 40 years.

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    Yeah, I think the best thing that could happen to this country's government is (1) ban both the Republic and Democrat parties (they are the REAL "special interests" ruining this country), and (2) give us 20 years worth of politician who are 100% willing to be one-termers, and who will take the unpopular but necessary actions we need from our government, whether it costs them their position or not.

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