Indiana man arrested at airport for violating Florida Law

[nogods]

Like Texas, Florida has chosen to criminalize the possession of a firearm in the secure areas of an airport (under federal law, such a violation subjects the violator to a civil penalty only.)

And apparently they mean it: Indiana man arrested for bringing gun into St. Pete-Clw. Airport

[B2Tall]

He would have been arrested in all 50 states, not just Florida. He didn't just carry into the airport....I do that all the time and have never been arrested. He tried to get into the boarding area with a gun.

Like I said in a recent thread - Did he not know he was getting on a plane that day??? Was he just driving around and said "Hey...there's the airport! I think I'll go get a ticket and fly somehwere!"???

He was arrested for stupidity. I have no more sympathy for him than I do for the people who carry in other states w/o knowing the law.

[SGB]

. He didn't just carry into the airport....I do that all the time and have never been arrested.

790.06
12)(a) A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into:1. Any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05;
2. Any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;
3. Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
4. Any courthouse;
5. Any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;
6. Any polling place;
7. Any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;
8. Any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;
9. Any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms;
10. Any elementary or secondary school facility or administration building;
11. Any career center;
12. Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
13. Any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;

14. The inside of the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or

15. Any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

(b) A person licensed under this section shall not be prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes.

(c) This section does not modify the terms or conditions of s. 790.251(7).
(d) Any person who knowingly and willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

[JJW]

I have to agree with B2Tall. Only a fool would try what he did. The fact that he was arrested is,IMHO, justified. There is plenty of information available concerning where you can, and cannot, carry. If you don't want to read, ask an instructor.

[Tucker's Mom]

First exists a fool, then stupid... one way or the other they both fall into the same trap.

[FN1910]

There is a lot of controversy about the term accidental discharge vs. negligent discharge and most people agreeing that there are few if any accidental discharges. When someone picks up a gun they are expected to know and follow the four rules of gun safety without fail. If someone is at home and takes off their gun they are expected to place it in a secure location where children or other such individuals cannot get it.

All of those expectations follow you every step when you are carrying and to forgive and call a lapse of memory, just forgot for a moment, an accident or any other excuse is being hypocritical. I agree that many of the laws about guns should not be there but knowing the law on carrying is just as important as any other rule and to "forget" you left your gun is your suitcase is just like forgetting you left it on the coffee table for your four-year-old to pick up. If you can't be trusted to know that your gun is in your suitcase when you try to board a plane you can't be trusted to carry a gun at all.

[nogods]

He would have been arrested in all 50 states, not just Florida. He didn't just carry into the airport....I do that all the time and have never been arrested. He tried to get into the boarding area with a gun.

Like I said in a recent thread - Did he not know he was getting on a plane that day??? Was he just driving around and said "Hey...there's the airport! I think I'll go get a ticket and fly somehwere!"???

He was arrested for stupidity. I have no more sympathy for him than I do for the people who carry in other states w/o knowing the law.

He was arrested under Florida law. Florida's laws only apply to airports in Florida. Just like Texas laws and Tennessee Laws only apply to airports in Texas and Tennessee.

In New York State there is no similar law. If I forget that my weapon is in my computer case while entering the secure area of the Buffalo-Niagara International Airport, I can be fined under federal law (a civil penalty) but there is no NYS criminal law that prohibit concealed carry in the secure area of an airport.

I don't know how many other states have such laws, but it begs the question, why have states like Florida, Tennessee, and Texas chosen to make criminal that which the federal government treats as a civil penalty? I thought they were suppose to be "gun-friendly" states?

[walt629]

Like Texas, Florida has chosen to criminalize the possession of a firearm in the secure areas of an airport (under federal law, such a violation subjects the violator to a civil penalty only.)

And apparently they mean it: Indiana man arrested for bringing gun into St. Pete-Clw. Airport

You know... on the particular topic of illegally possessing a gun in specified sterile areas of airports, this is slowly moving into the troll category. At least in my book.

How many times does everyone have to say "Know the law and carry according to the law". His ignorance (or was it defiance and arrogance?) got himself arrested.

Petition your Senator and Congressman to get all of the security dropped at airports just so you can carry your gun right up to the airplane door. Then we can have the argument about the airline companies denying you access to their aircraft with your firearm.

[walt629]

He was arrested under Florida law. Florida's laws only apply to airports in Florida. Just like Texas laws and Tennessee Laws only apply to airports in Texas and Tennessee.

In New York State there is no similar law. If I forget that my weapon is in my computer case while entering the secure area of the Buffalo-Niagara International Airport, I can be fined under federal law (a civil penalty) but there is no NYS criminal law that prohibit concealed carry in the secure area of an airport.

I don't know how many other states have such laws, but it begs the question, why have states like Florida, Tennessee, and Texas chosen to make criminal that which the federal government treats as a civil penalty? I thought they were suppose to be "gun-friendly" states?

The fact remains, in every public airport in the nation, it is illegal to carry weapons into the setrile areas.

The fact that the infraction of the law carries differing penalty weight in different state is a testament to the states exercising the right of the state to set their own penalty. Kind of sounds like the 10A being enacted.

Florida is "gun friendly" as long as you obey the law regarding the gun. Every state is (fill in the blank) friendly up to the time you violate the laws of the state concerning the use of (fill in the blank).

If you're after the 2A to be completely "not infringed" you better run for office, win by a landslide, get the laws restricting the 2A removed from the books and retrain society to accept everything without question. Otherwise, petition your representative as often as possible siting germane references and work to get the laws changed. In the mean time, "know the law, live by the law".

[nogods]

You know... on the particular topic of illegally possessing a gun in specified sterile areas of airports, you are slowly moving yourself into the troll category. At least in my book.

How many times does everyone have to say "Know the law and carry according to the law". His ignorance (or was it defiance and arrogance?) got himself arrested.

Petition your Senator and Congressman to get all of the security dropped at airports just so you can carry your gun right up to the airplane door. Then we can have the argument about the airline companies denying you access to their aircraft with your firearm.

I think you missed the point of these posts.

Every time someone is arrested for illegal possession of a firearm in a NY City airport, a portion of the 2A community expresses righteous indignation about New York State being the most anti-gun state in the union.

I'm just pointing out the fallacy of such claims. The arrest in NY are for possession of a firearm without a license, which is no different then the laws in Texas, Tennessee, and Florida. Get caught in those states with possession of a firearm without proper authority to possess the firearm and you'll be arrested.

Each of those states has had a recent airport arrest under their state laws, not federal laws, for something that under equivalent circumstances would not be a crime in New York State

Moreover, TN, TX, and FL take it a step further and criminalize behavior that is only subject to a civil fine under federal law.

I have no problem with people who object to these arrests, but they lose credibility for such objections when they try to depict the arrests as some sort of NY commie conspiracy to "take away our guns and bibles..."

But you are probably right, we've had enough posts about airport arrests. They happen almost every day in every state. So either the NY commies have fanned out and have infected every other state's legislature, or the people in those other states have simply decided that under their state's 10th amendment right they are going to criminalize behavior even though NYS has chosen not to do so.

and please...the troll card?

If I wanted to "troll" I'd start a thread about boycotting places we can't carry our weapons for self protection...like voting booths in states like Texas and Florida and Mississippi....how would such a boycott work out in the upcoming presidential election?

In Mississippi you can't carry a licensed weapon in any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity, or any meeting of the legislature or a committee thereof.

NYS has no such laws. In fact in Western NY we recently had a series of news reports about a town council member who regularly carries concealed at town council meetings. He wasn't violating any New York State law. Try that in Mississippi.