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Can the Second Amendment and Social Security coexist?

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    Terrified Politicians Believe One or the Other Has to Go.
    This is a very thought provoking read, especially now considering
    our economic situation. This could play out in a very bad way!

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    Probably going to happen sooner rather than later.


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    The JPFO make a good point. Now, convince the greater than 50% of those of the Jewish faith that are still planning to vote for Obama to change their minds.

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    I would say 'tin-foil hat crowd' but the fact is that this has all happened before. People just choose to forget it.

    We truly are slipping down the rabbit-hole towards a nanny-state, and that always leads to less freedom.

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    Article, unfortunately, follows the great "ponzi scheme scam" rhetoric. Social Security taxes were raised in 1983 to build a surplus "buffer fund" that was to cover the baby boomers. If the money would have been left in the trust fund it would now equal 2.6 Trillion (yes Trillion) dollars. Unfortunately, the government did not put the money in the fund. The government has spent the extra money on bailouts, tax cuts and wars. In exchange for the money the Feds gave the Social Security Administration "Treasury Certificates" which are nothing more than useless IOUs. To pay off these IOUs and return the money to the fund, the government would have to collect 2.6 Trillion dollars in income taxes (never going to happen) to pay off their "loan". We have had only 3 years during the time the fund has existed that there was not a surplus, after paying everybody their pensions. The baby boomers are a "bubble" lasting about 10 years, when the population, which is now in decline, will again level off and payments and taxes will balance and there will be a surplus generated again. The trust fund, if properly managed, would have covered the bubble. The Social Security system did not implode, it was raped and robbed by the government. If managed as originally set up, it would work. Figures to back this up can be found at the official Social Security site. They aren't even hiding what they did, the Administration and Congress just assume we are too stupid to look up the facts for ourselves!
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Beast View Post
    Can the Second Amendment and Social Security coexist?
    Terrified Politicians Believe One or the Other Has to Go.
    This is a very thought provoking read, especially now considering
    our economic situation. This could play out in a very bad way!

    Can the Second Amendment and Social Security coexist?
    They SHOULD be scared. Maybe they'll do something to FIX the damned system. It CAN and HAS been done in other countries:

    Australia and especially Chili come to mind. BOTH countries refer to their programs as "retirement" programs. Chileans, for example, contribute TEN percent of their income, no payroll tax. They can also retire YOUNGER than in the U.S. Sixty-five for men and 60 for women. It iguaranteeded by the government, unlike our own Social "Security" which cadisappearar with the stroke of a pen. Anyway, I always got the feeling that one of the reasons we have the right to bear arms is in case we need to take to them to effect needed changes that our "leaders" disagree with! Google Social Security/other countries. Not saying these programs are perfect, but they seem better than ours. And, oh yeah, congress couldn't spend the money. Darn. Here are a few links if interested: Chile’s Private Social Security System a Big Success International Liberty

    Australias Privatized Retirement System

    Australia
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