Amend/Repeal Class III Ban - A Stepping Stone To Total Gun Confiscation

[kwo51]

Why is the NRA and Goa not pounding this into our heads. Jews PFO is on it and calls the NRA friends of the ATFE. The only thing the government has to fear from armed citizens is government coruptionnot being stooped.

[Bohemian]

Now that the supreme court has ruled that banning an entire class of weapons is unconstitutional I think it is high time that we reminded the NRA, the GOA and SAF about their broken promises in this regard...

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[Canis-Lupus]

Civil law fails, what AR/NG's we have stateside R quickly dropped by snipers sporting M1's to Baretts's. Move B 4 the 'nasty' gets into your hood & find a place to lay low, I mean stealth, with your survival gear, and shooters, and some trusted armed M8's who R good at 1,000 meter one-shot kills. Amerca is full of recreational hunters! B-come one with a thick dense forest or find a cave. Then just go out recce when the shootng stops @ night and U will find every full auto-shooter in the inventory on every dead ex-owner, plus oodles of ammo, grenades, mines, gas-masks, U name it all for free! Original owners won't B needing them anymore, U sure will be. So why wait for laws to change or if they do go spend thousands on an MP-5, M60, SAW, M16, M203's or whatever U want, when there will be plenty around after the SHTF. From loaclized civil unrest to nationwide organized revolt. Logical thinking in a post lawful world/U.S./States where a weapon that shoots 600rpm is a friend not a trophy. Untll then one good shot with an old bolt-action Lee-Enfield .303 in a good cammo-ed spot (overwatch) can do as much damage in a well planned ambush as a patrol of armed goons all bunched up and walking down an open road at high noon, shooting full-auto at shadows or decoys or until their mags run out. 1 by 1 they drop c/o single kill-shots out of the lethal range of most M16's and all pistols. 5 like minded shooters, 5 spotters, 3-5 to keep command + control ='s a hunter-killer platoon of militia, with decent hunting rifles have (and still do in places like Columbia) taken out an entire infantry Bn of tired conscripts or tired volunteers, or sent the surviors running away in disorganized panic. Ask any good 60 y/o VC retired warrior w/ a few notches on his AK-47!, or a 20 y/o muj sniper/spotter 2-man team today in B-Dad, not like they will stick around to chat. They use Mech, U use LAW's 'n Dagons or TOW's to counter, they use air, U pop-smoke, di-di and resuface when you find some SAM kit or M2's. If we ever become the innocent targets/victims of those who get paid to protect us (cops or military), AND if we have commited no crimes, we cail this the right of self-defence, something like a bunch of gosh-darn very troublesome colonist rebels did around 1770. Still a touchy subject not fully covered in most British history books I ever read :-)

Canis-Lupus

[toreskha]

It is a God-given right, or if you don't believe in God, then it's our right by virtue of being human. No one in their right mind can deny the right of self-defense to any living being, much less a human being. Even housecats will fight back if cornered by a grizzly bear.

In any case, the type of weapons banned are rarely used in actual crimes, and the people that own them are usually really tight about keeping them away from those that might misuse them. I fail to see the potential problem here with respect to public safety.

[Bohemian]

The Unabridged Second Amendment

"If we do nothing, we can only say we did nothing" ... George Washington

[Sheldon]

Although class III weapons are legal her in Michigan, who can afford one, and a repeal of the 86 bill would help bring the price of them down sufficiently that you could buy a nice NIB full auto in 9 for a couple of K or less and not the oft heavly used for a significantly higher number that they are now.

[Bohemian]

Although class III weapons are legal her in Michigan, who can afford one, and a repeal of the 86 bill would help bring the price of them down sufficiently that you could buy a nice NIB full auto in 9 for a couple of K or less and not the oft heavily used for a significantly higher number that they are now.

Yes, good point, New M-16/M-4 Full-Auto - two thousand or less, post May 19th, 1986...
Used M-16/M-4 Pre-Ban, Pre May 19th, 1986 Twenty thousand...

[Quiet]

FYI.

Class 3 refers to Special Occupational Tax (SOT).

There are no Class 3 firearms.

Title 1 = non-NFA firearms (handguns, rifles, shotguns)
Title 2 = NFA firearms (AOW, SBR, SBS, MG)

A Type 08-FFL Class 1 SOT allows you to import NFA firearms.
A Type 07-FFL Class 2 SOT allows you to manufacture NFA firearms.
A Type 01-FFL Class 3 SOT allows you to deal in NFA firearms.

Common mistake is to refer to Title 2 NFA firearms as Class 3, because you have to go to a Type 01-FFL Class 3 SOT dealer in order to buy a Title 2 NFA firearm.

[Bohemian]

FYI:

Class III Weapons is the most common way full auto's are referred to by laymen...

Firearms (Modern) > Class III / NFA / Destructive Devices:
GunBroker.com: Guns (Modern) : Class III / NFA / Destructive Devices

Show me Everything in > Firearms : Class III:
Firearms : Class III

NFA et.al.:
National Firearms Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Form 4:
http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/pdfs/f53204.pdf

[kwo51]

I don't care what the goans call them I want one but would never get one with out premit.