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    Fellow second amendment supporters,

    Ive always been taught that the hydra-shock was the way to go... Now as I get older, Im beginning to wonder. Whats so special about the hydra shock? Is there anything that sets it apart from the other brands of personal defense ammo out there? Is there anything special about that little post in the middle? What is the post's actual purpose?

    What kind of personal defense ammo do you use and why? not caliber but type.

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    I use hydra-shock for only one reason. Its what LEO use in my area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    Fellow second amendment supporters,

    Ive always been taught that the hydra-shock was the way to go... Now as I get older, Im beginning to wonder. Whats so special about the hydra shock? Is there anything that sets it apart from the other brands of personal defense ammo out there? Is there anything special about that little post in the middle? What is the post's actual purpose?

    What kind of personal defense ammo do you use and why? not caliber but type.
    I think the Hydra-Shok from Federal isn't better than any other premium JHP such as the Remington Golden Saber, Speer Gold Dot, or Winchester Silver Tip. If you really want to see a comparison, get a stack of soggy phone books and shoot each type of bullet into them. This will give you a really good ballistics picture, wound profile, dept, etc..

    Depends on which firearm i'm carrying; if it's a 9mm, i like the Speer Gold Dot 124gr. JHP +P. For the .40, I generally like the Speer Gold Dot 165gr. JHP.. unless i am carrying a sub-compact, then I go lighter. On the 9mm, my thinking is this; .357 magnum or a 9mm +P? Both fire a .36 caliber bullet weighing roughly the same weight, .357 mag 125gr. and the 9mm a 124gr. Both bullets travel at mach speeds with the .357 having the edge. This of course also gives it the edge over the 9mm in stopping power. However, if you're a semi-auto guy/gal and you don't like the stout recoil or the cost of .357SIG, then a 124gr. 9mm loaded at +P pressure makes for a dandy self defense round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockster20 View Post
    I think the Hydra-Shok from Federal isn't better than any other premium JHP such as the Remington Golden Saber, Speer Gold Dot, or Winchester Silver Tip. If you really want to see a comparison, get a stack of soggy phone books and shoot each type of bullet into them. This will give you a really good ballistics picture, wound profile, dept, etc..

    Depends on which firearm i'm carrying; if it's a 9mm, i like the Speer Gold Dot 124gr. JHP +P. For the .40, I generally like the Speer Gold Dot 165gr. JHP.. unless i am carrying a sub-compact, then I go lighter. On the 9mm, my thinking is this; .357 magnum or a 9mm +P? Both fire a .36 caliber bullet weighing roughly the same weight, .357 mag 125gr. and the 9mm a 124gr. Both bullets travel at mach speeds with the .357 having the edge. This of course also gives it the edge over the 9mm in stopping power. However, if you're a semi-auto guy/gal and you don't like the stout recoil or the cost of .357SIG, then a 124gr. 9mm loaded at +P pressure makes for a dandy self defense round.
    Thank you for the insightful post.

    Do you have any idea what the actual purpose of the post in the center of the hydra-shock round is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockster20 View Post
    I think the Hydra-Shok from Federal isn't better than any other premium JHP such as the Remington Golden Saber, Speer Gold Dot, or Winchester Silver Tip. If you really want to see a comparison, get a stack of soggy phone books and shoot each type of bullet into them. This will give you a really good ballistics picture, wound profile, dept, etc..

    Depends on which firearm i'm carrying; if it's a 9mm, i like the Speer Gold Dot 124gr. JHP +P. For the .40, I generally like the Speer Gold Dot 165gr. JHP.. unless i am carrying a sub-compact, then I go lighter. On the 9mm, my thinking is this; .357 magnum or a 9mm +P? Both fire a .36 caliber bullet weighing roughly the same weight, .357 mag 125gr. and the 9mm a 124gr. Both bullets travel at mach speeds with the .357 having the edge. This of course also gives it the edge over the 9mm in stopping power. However, if you're a semi-auto guy/gal and you don't like the stout recoil or the cost of .357SIG, then a 124gr. 9mm loaded at +P pressure makes for a dandy self defense round.
    I have to agree, Federal helped pioneer the self defense loads in with their Hydra-Shok rounds, but like Glockster20 said, there are an assortment of others with just as hot a product on the market. Although I'm still partial to the Federal Premium Hydra-Shok rounds. The post in the middle helps contol the rounds expansion upon impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    Fellow second amendment supporters,

    What is the post's actual purpose?

    What kind of personal defense ammo do you use and why? not caliber but type.
    The post is supposed to direct the fluids that enter the cavity and direct them to the outside wall thus ensuring the consistency of opening, mushrooming. If the cavity is not blocked up it does seem to work just as advertized.

    There has been a lot of development of bullets since the Hydro-Shok came out. It has been upgraded since then, too. I use any of the newest generation of expanding bullets that Marshall & Sanow show to be in the 90+ percentile for one-shot-stop. Being a cynic I understand that noting works one-hundred-percent of the the time but those give me the best chance of working. I test some of the ammunition before I carry, once I determine 100% reliability I use the most accurate.

    In current use are Remington Golden Sabre, and standard HP; Winchester Silver-Tip and DPX1; Magtech First Defense and standard HP; and Corbon DPX; Speer Gold Dot; Federal Hydro-shok, and Ny-clad.

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    All the premium ammo made today are good enough in most cases. Shot placement is more important then bullet type.
    JHP are the way to go for self defense.
    Ball ammo, might over penetrate, and are not as good,as a fight stopper as JHP's are.
    Oh, and some guns work better with different types of ammo in them.
    Everyone has their preferences;ie, Ford, Chevy,Honda, Federal,Hornady,Remington,Corbon, etc.
    In the old days ammo was not as good as they make these days. Now everyone makes a good version of self defense ammo.
    Technology is better now.
    Practice hitting your target more, and worry about ammo brand less.
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    Lighter weight bullets might be preferred for use in shorter barreled guns to keep terminal velocity up where it will cause proper expansion on penetration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfhunter View Post
    Lighter weight bullets might be preferred for use in shorter barreled guns to keep terminal velocity up where it will cause proper expansion on penetration.
    Absolutely! For example, I carry my Glock 23 (compact) loaded with 165gr. bullets and my G27 (sub-compact) loaded with 135gr. bullets.

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