This is a discussion on Had to Remove a Student Today - Opinions Sought within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Main Category category; Originally Posted by hornett22 He should have been booted on the 1st incedent. This isn't a class on mulching a ...
While we don't want people endangering others at these events, they ARE here for training. Some need it far worse than others. If they're unable or unwilling to accept training (like that guy), then they need to go. If they make mistakes, but ARE learning, well, you then have to decide if it's safer to keep the guy there and keep training him, or let him loose on the rest of us in the outside world as-is... :-O
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I think you did the right thing. At our local range we had a young kid who thought he knew everything,yet did everything wrong including looking down the barrel of his loaded gun,pointed it at everything but what he was supposed to. The instructor threw him out the second time he pointed it in the wrong direction. Problem is most kids are raised by the TV and they think that's the right way to do things. Not enough man training at home in most cases.
Forget the safety violations on day 2. I would have ejected him after the second disruption of the lecture on day 1.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" Patrick Henry (ironically a slave owner), 1775 Mar 23.
The first time, he made a mistake, it was corrected and the WHY of what he was doing was wrong and dangerous was explained to him.
That means the SECOND time he did it he knew better and knowingly violated the rules. Since he 'knows better than you do' (apparently he believes so since he chose to argue), as far as I'm concerned, he can 'know better' someplace else. He was endangering those around him with his careless gun handling and is putting both the range and the instructor cadre in legal jeopardy and needed to be removed.