burning the flag

[NCIC105]

A lot of the citizens of our country have no respect!

Politically, correctness is killing our proud country!

Wish these maggots would go to Iran and burn that state flag....

[NCIC105]

It just pisses me off that I spent 20 yrs, months at a time at sea away from my family, my kids growing up without me, working for cheap money believing I was doing it to keep the flag flying.

I saluted the flag every time I walked on or off the ship. The American flag gave us the right of way at sea regardless and other foriegn ships dipped their flags to us when we passed.



I don't care how those of you, who grew up saying the pledge in school and never thought of the words, feel. If you have never actually lived your life protecting the flag and what it meant, you can't possibly understand.

So you sit there and make all the excuse's you want for the Dumbass decision made by the SCOTUS that it is JUST free speech, but don't expect me to just sit here without telling you that you've caved!

Done!

KK

I for one "Thank You" for what you did for us!

[Treo]

Burning the flag is protected as free speech. There are also times when flags are meant to be burned. When they are retired, beyond repair, American flags are supposed to be respectfully burned. The ashes are interred or spread on the graves of veterans.

Where did thst come from?

k.The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm

[Treo]

And yet I hear noone complaining when the flag is flown at half mast everytime a local soldier is killed. I believe that actually violates the customs and curtesies in the constitution. I'm sure someone can/will correct me if i'm wrong about that

Yeah, you are The U.S. Constitution has nothing at all to say about how to fly the flag. That would be United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1 — The Flag

m.The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection —

Flag Code

[NCIC105]

Burning a United States Flag is disrespecting the country that allows you to have your freedoms. It also disrespects the blood given by your Fathers, Grandfather and Great Grandfathers who fought and died so you enjoy the freedoms that most other countries do not have!

It is good your deceased family can not come back and slap you up side you dumb-a$$ head!

If you are not happy with this country get involved to make changes rather than sit on your arces and complain and defend idiots who burn our flag...

OK now I'm through!

[Treo]

Thomas Jefferson once shot a man on the white house lawn for treason I see no difference here

Yeah, let us know how that works out for you.

I never took an oath to “protect the flag” the oath I took was quite specific
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

The U.S. Constitution is a pretty radical document; it recognizes the right of the People to protest against their government. The Supreme Court holds that burning a flag is protected free speech. I might personally find it offensive but I’m glad I live in a country that allows its Citizens to openly protest it.

[kelcarry]

What you do is when you see some scum "exercising their 1st Amendment rights, you do the same in their face with the most vile and disgusting language you can think of, including letting them know that you wish "their mama would come out from under the porch and bite them on the leg". Stick you chin out when you do this as you exercise your 1st Amendment rights. If they should hit you, you perform a citizens arrest. If they should even draw blood, you sue the **** our of them. Good for the goose? Good for the gander.

[Treo]

What you do is when you see some scum "exercising their 1st Amendment rights, you do the same in their face with the most vile and disgusting language you can think of, including letting them know that you wish "their mama would come out from under the porch and bite them on the leg". Stick you chin out when you do this as you exercise your 1st Amendment rights. If they should hit you, you perform a citizens arrest. If they should even draw blood, you sue the **** our of them. Good for the goose? Good for the gander.

Are you at all familiar w/ the concept of "Provoking speech" or "Mutual combat"?

[xdmgator]

It just pisses me off that I spent 20 yrs, months at a time at sea away from my family, my kids growing up without me, working for cheap money believing I was doing it to keep the flag flying.

I saluted the flag every time I walked on or off the ship. The American flag gave us the right of way at sea regardless and other foriegn ships dipped their flags to us when we passed.



I don't care how those of you, who grew up saying the pledge in school and never thought of the words, feel. If you have never actually lived your life protecting the flag and what it meant, you can't possibly understand.

So you sit there and make all the excuse's you want for the Dumbass decision made by the SCOTUS that it is JUST free speech, but don't expect me to just sit here without telling you that you've caved!

Done!

KK

I for one "Thank You" for what you did for us!

I do as well ;)

[S&W645]

Yeah, let us know how that works out for you.

I never took an oath to “protect the flag” the oath I took was quite specific
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

The U.S. Constitution is a pretty radical document; it recognizes the right of the People to protest against their government. The Supreme Court holds that burning a flag is protected free speech. I might personally find it offensive but I’m glad I live in a country that allows its Citizens to openly protest it.

Current Oath for Florida employees/officals has changed over the years but contained the same idea when I first took it 34 years ago. Current Oath has dropped the protect part.

876.05 Public employees; oath.—
(1) All persons who now or hereafter are employed by or who now or hereafter are on the payroll of the state, or any of its departments and agencies, subdivisions, counties, cities, school boards and districts of the free public school system of the state or counties, or institutions of higher learning, except candidates for federal office, are required to take an oath before any person duly authorized to take acknowledgments of instruments for public record in the state in the following form:
I,____________, a citizen of the State of Florida and of the United States of America, and being employed by or an officer of _______________ and a recipient of public funds as such employee or officer, do hereby solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the State of Florida.

(2) Said oath shall be filed with the records of the governing official or employing governmental agency prior to the approval of any voucher for the payment of salary, expenses, or other compensation.

The flag was never mentioned as it is a symbol only. Your pledge is to the Constitution only.

But buried deep in the Florida Statutes is

876.52 Public mutilation of flag.—Whoever publicly mutilates, defaces, or tramples upon or burns with intent to insult any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States or of Florida shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.