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    Default More Dangerous Criminals Disarmed - Who's next? You?

    Notice what it says in the story below about "most criminal cases against citizens never reach any jury"

    That is how it is done these days. The police and prosecutors will lie to these kids and scare the crap out of them and their parents about how they are going to face xx number of years on prison if they try to fight it in court OR they could AVOID ALL THAT by simply pleading guilty to a little old felony.

    It's time to rise up against this assault on our God given right to self preservation.

    Wake up America.

    Teens Get Felony Charges in Squirrel Killing | NowPublic News Coverage

    TWO TEENAGE BOYS were charged with felonies after a neighbor reported seeing them shoot squirrels with an air rifle. Now 19-year-old Craig Mauro and Thomas Morgan face the possibility of joining Florida’s prison population. There is no chance of mistaken identity; Morgan was caught red-handed by a law officer. Additionally, Mauro had a marijuana pipe, but no drugs. That may add years to his sentence if found guilty by a jury.

    Unfortunately, most criminal cases against citizens never reach any jury. Youths such as Mauro and Morgan are usually encouraged to plead guilty to felonies and accept probation. They will then be required to regularly pay a certain sum of money, or they add violation of probation to their rap sheet. If they miss a payment, they could then be arrested without trial and serve their sentence for the original charge in the plea deal plus an added sentence connected with violating probation. Thus, two more young people would be incarcerated without the benefit of trial due to the lack of money.

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    Good find, some people definitely do not deserve to be labeled as a felon, the crime does not fit the punishment.

    It's not like they willfully violated the law by carrying a concealed weapon in Illinois.

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    Drug crazed 19 year olds with an assault BB gun, boy do I feel safer knowing they are off the street. This heroic animal control officer should be promoted to TSA where he can protect us from fingernail clippers and the ever present threat of a manicure at 35,000 feet. This is the only thing I can think of that scares me more than squirrel hunters.

    Yesterday I was on a rant about cops making a video (in poor taste) with a police vehicle and equipment. I take that all back. Society would be better served if this guy would find a way to avoid work. Better yet he should go back to his old job as I understand he excelled at saying "would you like fries with that".
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    Quote Originally Posted by accidentalfelon View Post
    Unfortunately, most criminal cases against citizens never reach any jury. Youths such as Mauro and Morgan are usually encouraged to plead guilty to felonies and accept probation. They will then be required to regularly pay a certain sum of money, or they add violation of probation to their rap sheet. If they miss a payment, they could then be arrested without trial and serve their sentence for the original charge in the plea deal plus an added sentence connected with violating probation. Thus, two more young people would be incarcerated without the benefit of trial due to the lack of money.

    Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Teens Get Felony Charges in Squirrel Killing | NowPublic News Coverage Teens Get Felony Charges in Squirrel Killing | NowPublic News Coverage[/I]
    Once again Im calling bullsh**.

    Keyword: "encouraged" not forced. These 19 year olds were ENCOURAGED to plead guilty, not forced. That was their decision.

    Now the part about not being able to have a trial due to lack of money, bullsh**. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed to you FREE OF CHARGE. These kids knew that when their Miranda warning was given.

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    Here is how it turned out:For Craig Mauro: http://www.2atalk.com/docs/Pinellas_...aig_docket.jpg

    and here: http://www.2atalk.com/docs/Pinellas_...ig_docket2.jpg

    For Thomas Morgan: http://www.2atalk.com/docs/Pinellas_...mas_docket.jpg

    Mauro probably had a harder time getting the matter dismissed because of his rap sheet:http://www.2atalk.com/docs/Pinellas_..._rap_sheet.jpg

    Looks like he joined the Navy instead of becoming a felon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    Once again Im calling bullsh**.

    Keyword: "encouraged" not forced. These 19 year olds were ENCOURAGED to plead guilty, not forced. That was their decision.

    Now the part about not being able to have a trial due to lack of money, bullsh**. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed to you FREE OF CHARGE. These kids knew that when their Miranda warning was given.
    Please look up Nolo Contendere. It is what the kid had to plead. In layman's terms it means "I haven't done anything wrong, but I either don't have the money or don't have the ability to win my case".

    If his parents had money he would have been DENIED a public defender.

    I love how these guys who've never sat on the other side of the table are experts on how things work.

    No wonder we don't have any rights in this country any more.

    Shooting squirrels with a BB gun. Next up - Felony skateboarding and Making Snow Angels with felony intent.

    Good Grief!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbirds View Post
    Good find, some people definitely do not deserve to be labeled as a felon, the crime does not fit the punishment.

    It's not like they willfully violated the law by carrying a concealed weapon in Illinois.
    Ouch! that was a snipe is I ever see one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker's Mom View Post
    Ouch! that was a snipe is I ever see one....
    Just pointing out that this is more of the "Give a felon a gun" campaign that Accidentalfelon spews when he passes through the forum. Next comes the story of the revolutionary war hero that was a "felon" of his day.. blah blah. Same story, different day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbirds View Post
    Just pointing out that this is more of the "Give a felon a gun" campaign that Accidentalfelon spews when he passes through the forum. Next comes the story of the revolutionary war hero that was a "felon" of his day.. blah blah. Same story, different day.

    Good call DoveBird. Here's your question of the day based on history.

    General Gage was the most powerful man in America. He was regarded, even by his enemies as a man of law and of high integrity. The colonists carefully calculated their moves in ways that kept them just out of reach of the law for a long time......till the time came to break the law.

    Gage represented the law in America. He was well regarded by the King of England and trusted to keep the colonists in submission.

    Many Americans felt just like you DoveBird. They didn't care so much about their freedoms because it really didn't have anything to do with them. They were supposedly living lawful lives.

    They willingly gave up their arms when it was demanded of them because they didn't want to be lawbreakers like Sam Adams who defied the law and kept his arms. (In a city that had outlawed arms no less. Imaging that, defying an illegal law...unheard of)

    After all, it was the troublemakers like Paul Revere and John Hancock who were causing all the problems.

    Some of the population became traitors to the revolution. Dr Benjamin Church infiltrated the inner sanctum of the independence movement by joining with the small pack of less than a dozen men who started the spark of freedom and met in secret to formulate their next moves.

    By all accounts Benjamin Church and General Gage were good, honest men who were doing the bidding of their country and trying to uphold the law.....a law that was perfectly legal and acceptable to much of the population.

    So I ask you Mr DoveBird. It's 1774..........

    Do you side with Paul Revere, the freedom fighting outlaw and wanted felon?

    Or Benjamin Church, the informant for the king?

    Whichever you choose please explain your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by accidentalfelon View Post
    Good call DoveBird. Here's your question of the day based on history.

    General Gage was the most powerful man in America. He was regarded, even by his enemies as a man of law and of high integrity. The colonists carefully calculated their moves in ways that kept them just out of reach of the law for a long time......till the time came to break the law.

    Gage represented the law in America. He was well regarded by the King of England and trusted to keep the colonists in submission.

    Many Americans felt just like you DoveBird. They didn't care so much about their freedoms because it really didn't have anything to do with them. They were supposedly living lawful lives.

    They willingly gave up their arms when it was demanded of them because they didn't want to be lawbreakers like Sam Adams who defied the law and kept his arms. (In a city that had outlawed arms no less. Imaging that, defying an illegal law...unheard of)

    After all, it was the troublemakers like Paul Revere and John Hancock who were causing all the problems.

    Some of the population became traitors to the revolution. Dr Benjamin Church infiltrated the inner sanctum of the independence movement by joining with the small pack of less than a dozen men who started the spark of freedom and met in secret to formulate their next moves.

    By all accounts Benjamin Church and General Gage were good, honest men who were doing the bidding of their country and trying to uphold the law.....a law that was perfectly legal and acceptable to much of the population.

    So I ask you Mr DoveBird. It's 1774..........

    Do you side with Paul Revere, the freedom fighting outlaw and wanted felon?

    Or Benjamin Church, the informant for the king?

    Whichever you choose please explain your choice.
    Here is my choice IntentionalFelon:

    Here is someone that won't roll over in their grave like Benjamin Chruch and General Gage would if they learned that you were comparing yourself to them in a pathetic attempt to justify your actions.

    "CUSHING, Okla. — Cushing police said they arrested a man Friday morning after a Walmart employee found a loaded handgun inside a jacket left on a store rack.

    The man who is thought to have worn the jacket before setting it on a rack was arrested just before 7:30 a.m. Friday. He has been arrested on preliminary charges of possession of a loaded firearm while intoxicated, possession of a concealed firearm without a license and public intoxication, according to Cushing police. He is being held in the Payne County Jail on $2,500 bail.

    The man was unsteady on his feet and had bloodshot eyes and slurred speech when police arrived at the store in Cushing, police said. The man told police he took an over-the-counter medication, according to police. Deputy Chief Tully Folden said he didn't know which medication the man claimed to have taken.

    Police took a .38-caliber handgun in the investigation. The man told police he wasn't aware the gun was in his jacket, Folden said."


    At least this guy blamed his carrying a gun without a permit on being drunk, you did it on purpose.

    So there you go IntentionalFelon, you have more in common with this guy than any Revolutionary War hero. So try comparing apples to apples and not heroes to turds.
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