I'm sure glad I didn't wait..............

[BluesStringer]

I'm just aghast that any state's processing should require such long times. That in CA you have to make an appointment to even apply - well, that's just ridiculous.

South Dakota law requires the permit to be issued within 30 days, and the norm is that applicants get their temporary permit within a week and the laminated card within 2-3 weeks. I'll take life out here in flyover country, thank you.

Move a little further South than the Southern-most Dakota, and you can get your CWP within two minutes of walking through the Sheriff's Office doors. And establishing residency is a matter of showing a rent receipt or payment coupon for the house you live in if it's your first permit application. I moved here from CA in '92, where I had grown up and lived off and on for a lot of my adult life up until then, and had my Alabama CWP after only 5 days in the state. Could've had it the same day we got here, as we had rented a house through telephone and mail.

I don't know when it started loosening up in CA, but for the ~40 years that I lived there off and on, there was no such thing as a CWP for anyone but hi-level private eyes, off-duty cops and some DA's and Prosecutor's Office employees. Any exceptions back then related to knowing someone in high places. In all the time I lived there, all of it since the age of 9 being a gun enthusiast, I only ever met one person with a CWP, a friend of a friend who was a PI that worked a lot with the Santa Cruz Prosecutor's Office.

If I still lived there, I guess I would feel excited about the loosening up, and I'd probably jump through whatever hoops I had to get a permit. But the fact that around 40 years of life-experience informed me that CA would never be fully supportive of my rights, is exactly why I don't live there anymore. We didn't leave only because of 2A considerations, but it was a big part of our decision, and it was also a big part of where we chose to go after deciding to leave. I have never regretted leaving for a second.

Blues

[Tucker's Mom]

I hear ya but...........

We are lucky that they even started issuing them out here in CA. Just a few years ago it was a waste of time to even try.

I understand how you Kommiefornian feel. We used to live in Mission Viejo for many years. I wasn't into guns at the time but hubby and kids were (still are...) place was too snooty for my taste. 'Glad to leave the place when we moved here to MO.

[vangg23]

That's very good news to hear. More if these application hold ups and eventually they'll have to move to a faster system. Call your state legislatures. Voice your concern. Eventually something will have to give. Have all your buddy's do the same. I'll do it too. Now we are a huge group swarming our legislatures.

[Rhino]

That in CA you have to make an appointment to even apply - well, that's just ridiculous.

Not necessarily. You have to make an appointment here in my Ohio county, and for a very good reason. When they passed the concealed carry law and gave county sheriffs the responsibility for issuing the licenses, they provided no funding for extra manpower to do so. Our county sheriff has to process and issue licenses with the personnel he already has on hand, which means it's an extra duty for someone who already has another full time job. If they didn't have an appointment system set up, there would be periods where the people processing the applications would not be able to perform their primary duties due to high numbers of CCW applicants coming through the doors. Indeed, that's the way it was the first year or so before they implemented the appointment system, and before some recent budget crunches forced manpower cutbacks. Requiring appointments can be a very well justified necessity.