What is Open Carry – Really

[Chief1297]

I carry my gun on my belt. If it is in their face, that is truly interesting...indeed.

and yet another reason to consider carrying appendix.

[Firefighterchen]

I will also say that if you do OC, be sure to have the gun secured to the belt and have some sort of security retention. Otherwise cowboy it up.

I will also say, if you CC, be sure to have your gun secured to a belt. Why does OC change that? Is there anyone here that carries in an insecure holster or no holster at all? Get whatever level retention you want, if you let your situation awareness down, it won't matter how many steps you need to take before you get hurt badly...I'll keep my SA high and my retention low so I have minimal disadvantages.

Fantasyland and non-thinking you say?

So are you claiming that it's not a good thing to have the 'element of surprise'??

Oookay.

Curious outlaw, what do you think you have that is surprising? The gun you have hidden? If so...what do you expect the bad guy to do after you "surprise" him?

You see...I have a surprise for the bad guy too...I too carry a firearm. Except I surprise him before he starts his attack, I surprise him when he is picking his victim, and he goes "oh crap that guy has gun, I didn't see it before, but now I do...time to move on to another before I die..."

While you get attacked...and then you try to surprise him and hope he doesn't pull the trigger or stab you while you attempt to get your gun out.

For the bad guys that decide I still am a good target, well sorry but your surprise does you no good for them either. They don't care if they die...they also don't care if you live...we are both in a crappy situation then...

The element of surprise is a good thing, if we were the ones hunting down the bad guys...but alas we aren't hunting them down, so surprise is their play. Reaction is ours. I can react faster than you can react with nothing hindering my firearm.

[sig p6]

I'm new to ccw here in wisconsin. I have a clealand holster "iwb" that holds my p6. I have been looking for a owb holster also for my sig as well for my g21, as warmer weather comes to wisconsin. My question comes when you are, say in between ccw and oc. It is warm out , Shorts, button down shirt, t-shirt, not tuck in but loose on the body and one might see what i'm carrying. Would that be brandishing? because you are doing a little of both? oc and ccw .I would like to go for the owb for both gun's duringing the warmer months but I'm concerned that this could bring on a unwanted leo encounter that now one needs.

As far as oc, vs ccw, It's what works's best for you and no one else, just as long as you carry!! that's what matters.

[NavyLCDR]

It is warm out , Shorts, button down shirt, t-shirt, not tuck in but loose on the body and one might see what i'm carrying. Would that be brandishing? because you are doing a little of both?

No, that would be sloppy concealment. But who cares? Open carry is legal in Wisconsin. What "might" be considered brandishing is if you exposed your gun from concealment in order to intimidate someone.

[Flanmedic51]

I will also say, if you CC, be sure to have your gun secured to a belt. Why does OC change that? Is there anyone here that carries in an insecure holster or no holster at all? Get whatever level retention you want, if you let your situation awareness down, it won't matter how many steps you need to take before you get hurt badly...I'll keep my SA high and my retention low so I have minimal disadvantages.

All I'm saying, is that I wouldn't OC without the holster looped on my belt and some sort of finger/thumb drive security. I don't need some wacked out dude on bath salts trying to take advantage of my firearm.

[Firefighterchen]

All I'm saying, is that I wouldn't OC without the holster looped on my belt and some sort of finger/thumb drive security. I don't need some wacked out dude on bath salts trying to take advantage of my firearm.

You wouldn't open carry anyways though right? :) LOL

I have nothing against retention devices, especially for very active lifestyles. There are very nice and quick retention devices available today. But...the best safety for a firearm is your brain, and the best retention is your awareness. Train so you are comfortable with the least amount of disadvantages. If you feel the most comfortable with a level II thumb device retention, then that is what you should carry. As I said, I will keep my awareness up, my brain thinking, and my retention/obstructions (concealment) low. I open carry.

[Axeanda45]

I open carry quite often.. I used to not use any retention devices (and I dont care whether any of you do or not) However, one day I had to make a very quick getaway jump from a backhoe that decided that it wanted to be on its top vs its wheels, and in the process, my pistol flew out of my holster. That led me to how I would do a few things differently in the future... One was that I probably need to at least carry in a thumb-break equipped holster and the other was that I very much needed to get better at operating a backhoe before I killed myself...

[NCIC105]

What is Open Carry – Really

It is the beautiful bold face of the 2nd Amendment
It is the American flag to America’s enemies
It is the ultimate symbol of American freedom
It is Ronald Reagan’s “Tear down this wall!”
It is “in your face” to the anti-gun left
It is George Washington to the British
It is storming Normandy to the Germans
It is “Cinderella escaping ” to her Concealed Carry stepsisters

If you have positive analogy or metaphor, please post it.

If you oppose OC, you may as well post on the the bradycampaign.org website because they use your arguments in opposing all carry.

Tony@IdahoOpenCarry.org
Only the Good Guys (and Girls) Open Carry

Great post!

It is what made this Great Country
It is the statement "Don't tread on me"

[NCIC105]

I'm new to ccw here in wisconsin. I have a clealand holster "iwb" that holds my p6. .

Great holster.. I have one I use a lot.