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This is a discussion on Kimber Ultra + CPD II within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Main Category category; Greetings. New to the forum. I'm looking for a CC handgun and one that I can feel comfortable taking on ...

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    Greetings. New to the forum.

    I'm looking for a CC handgun and one that I can feel comfortable taking on backpacking trips in mountain lion and bear country. At 5'8" and 155, I like the size of a .380 for cc, but don't feel it has much stopping power for 4 legged problems.

    I take my kimber 1911 backpacking, the .45 gives me peace of mind, but it's heavy on the trail and wouldn't consider it really cc for me.

    Do any of you have experience with the Ultra+ CPDII. 3 inch barrel, but full size grip. I don't like the two finger grips of many of the smaller guns. It seems like a good middle ground.

    Thoughts? Thanks much.

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    I have a Kimber Ultra carry and love it, great and easy to shoot and light weight. Hope this helps

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    I know you didn't ask about anything but the Kimber, but try the Glock 29. Compact and lightweight and is a 10MM which is a bit stronger than the 45 for 4 legged problems.

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    I love my Kimber Ultra CPD II !! I forget I have it on; and you can get bumper pads to extend the magazine base a little. However, for me, the grip is fine as is.
    The new Springfield .45 S looks like it should be great too. The XD's are great guns as well! My buddy LOVES his compact.

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    If you're hiking in bear and mountain lion country, I STRONGLY recommend something more powerful than a .45 or even a 10mm. Think more like a .44 Magnum, .454 Casull, or .50S&W.

    Yes, I know that none of those are good choices for concealed carry. SO WHAT? Use the right tool for the job. Get another, smaller gun for concealed carry.

    As to the Kimber Ultra CDP - while I don't have experience with that particular gun, I've shot a fair number of other 1911s in various sizes. A Kimber in a small package will be less accurate and have more felt recoil than the full size Kimber.
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    Thanks all.

    Phillip, with the speed and stealth of something like a mountain lion, is accuracy a bit less of a concern? I'm thinking it's going to be feet, not yards. (By the way, Massachusetts born and raised. It seems my old and new state are equally tough with CC permits)

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    I'm a big fan of Kimbers and the ultra sized CDP is a great CCW but I'm not sure it would be my choice for bears and mountain lions. If you were to choose this particular gun, obviously you would want to run several hundred rounds of your selected carry ammo through it because the ultra size is just a bit more prone to hiccups due to the compact design. The slide actually has less time and space to cycle each round. Kimber does a great job of making it work but I'd still want something in a bigger cal. with a longer sight radius for carnivorous animals larger than me. Plus I wouldn't want to beat up a beautiful CDP backpacking. Something like the Glock 20 10mm weighs less than 1 oz more than the CDP II ultra plus when unloaded. It will hold about twice as many rounds (in case you stumble upon 2 mountain lions) and it is better suited for extended time periods in the elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcrunner88 View Post
    Thanks all.

    Phillip, with the speed and stealth of something like a mountain lion, is accuracy a bit less of a concern? I'm thinking it's going to be feet, not yards. (By the way, Massachusetts born and raised. It seems my old and new state are equally tough with CC permits)
    I actually grew up in WV, but have lived in Mass for the last 12 years.

    Think about this. If it's feet, not yards, how many shots do you think you're going to put into the animal? You want a round that has a ***tload of punch, something that's going to expand, transfer a LOT of energy into the animal, and tear up its guts and vital organs. While a .45 does an admirable job with a human being, the anatomy of wild animals can take a hell of a lot more abuse than our comparatively frail bodies can.

    Now go forth and buy yourself a big freaking revolver. And some bear spray.
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    definitely pack some bear mace. and as a side note wasp or hornet spray works great as well in place of bear mace or any type of mace really and It gives you 25 feet worth of distance in a very powerful condensed stream instead of a spray so that you can actually get what you're shooting at and hit the eyeballs and sensory glands.

    that said the way I see it, you have 2 options... putting myself in your shoes and this is just my honest opinion. budget is a huge factor for me so personally I would go with the kimber ultra carry in the 45 caliber just because it gives me a strong carry weapon I can take out in the woods. are there calibers that would be better suited yes. but if you want a concealed carry weapon that you can also use in the woods and you can't afford to buy 2 different firearms I would definitely go with kimber love it I've used them for years and it's amazing. I know a lot of people say that you lose accuracy with a smaller shorter firearm and wow this is so true but the distance I'm gonna use my firearm for personal protection anywhere from 10 to 50 feet. and within those ranges my kimber performs remarkably accurate.

    if you can afford to get two firearms I would definitely get the kimber for concealed carry but I would also use a revolver smith and wesson 357 magnum with a long barrel, or a .50 or 10 mm

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    I carry a 44mag when in Bear Country!
    Folks ask why I carry two guns...Well if I did not I'd be off balance and walk in circles!

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