Concealed carry badges?

[Sgt. SIG]

[KimberRB]

Until they make it mandatory in my state NOWAY! Just a bad idea.

[HK4U]

I don't feel the need to have a badge.

[toreskha]

Yo Landor,
U say: "So how many of you would give up your CCW license if a law passed tomorrow that you had to have a CCW badge." Simple, I would glady swap a poorly-made card-stock WA state CC permit, which is easy to forge, damage, fuzz-out, a mere 2" x 3" back & white bit of card, easy to trash even if it gets wet or bent. If the badge was issued to me, with my mug shot and bar-coded, making it a lot harder to fudge

Sounds like WA just needs to give better CWP cards. The ones here in FL are printed on the same kind of plastic ATM-type card as our DLs, except there's no mag stripe. It does have a photo, info and holograms on the front though. They're not counterfeit-proof, but they'll survive until expiration.

I would kind of prefer that the Feds give out more durable SSN cards though. I've managed to destroy two so far and am waiting on #3 to come in the mail. Would it really be sacrilege to print them on plastic? I just want it to survive the washing machine.

[KimberRB]

Same here in Ohio look like the DLs

[NDS]

I think a lot of you miss the point about 'natural' or 'god given' rights. CCW as it exists is unconstitutional. We all have an innate right to defense; to that purpose the Bill of Rights recognizes our 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms.'

That we have to jump through hoops and be licensed to exercise a right that is already ours is criminal on the part of the government. Arguing over badges is a sideshow because badges are meant to show rank, station, or purpose. Nobody needs to give notice of something everyone can rightfully do.

[toreskha]

We all have an innate right to defense; to that purpose the Bill of Rights recognizes our 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms.'

I agree with that. If the UN were serious about the Declaration on Human Rights, they would have put the right to bear arms in there. We all have that right by virtue of existence.

[LDaniel]

In Texas, they are meaningless. And if a person were to misuse the badge, lets say the person uses it to impersonate a public servant with intent to induce another to submit to his pretended official authority or to rely on his pretended official acts, he or she will get a free ride downtown and temporary use of nickel plated braclets.

I am in Warrants, but if I was out and about and a person were to display the badge and mention he is a permit holder, I would say, show me your permit, that piece of tin means nothing.

[Grumpy]

The badge is not issued like the license. If it is not required we don't need it. The gun and the license are all we need. In fact some states have laws on the books that outlaw any badges that are not issued by a governmental agency.

As for security guards, they are required to wear a uniform with patches and/or badges. Their guns are also required to be worn in the open, not concealed.

[Landor]

Yo Landor,
U say: "So how many of you would give up your CCW license if a law passed tomorrow that you had to have a CCW badge." Simple, I would glady swap a poorly-made card-stock WA state CC permit, which is easy to forge, damage, fuzz-out, a mere 2" x 3" back & white bit of card, easy to trash even if it gets wet or bent. If the badge was issued to me, with my mug shot and bar-coded, making it a lot harder to fudge and it was included in the fee I had to pay for the CC process, would fit into my bill-fold hidden away from ADVERTISING the fact that I am carrying something that can kill U, then I would gladly make the trade-out, but still not flash the badge just like I don't flash my piece. Is semantics or tunnel vision your premise, or R U just bored and posted a no-brainer (ain't ever going to happen) onto USA-Carry?
"Some security guards even have badges." Well that's an astute observation, and many have the same shooters, cuffs, batons, spray-defense weapons, radios, cell-phones, etc. (and many of the powers of any LEO) to use lawful force to protect what they get paid for specific duties to protect, not protecting the general public, two entirely different gigs. I would expect to see an I.D. of clear and indisputable correctness displayed to me their symbols of authority to halt me as I was climbing the wall of the local Wal-mart @ 2am with an empty duffle-bag or 3 and their security don't take: "U got no badges so bugger-off!" for an answer. A simple 'Security' shirt/bomber jacket I.D.'s them just fine, and they are in the business of showing off the fact that they can do U harm if you do stupid stuff, we R not and don't get paid for doing that. They may not even need a badge, just as IMHO we CC permit carrying citizens don't.
You go on to say: "Sorry folks but these answers are not about badges but more like a badge with a gun.. " No the issue is not about badges for CC weapons carry types, it is about the fact that online and in most big towns/cities you can buy any current local LEO/FBI/DEA/INS, etc, whole make-up, make-overs which allows you to con most of the public into trusting you, or is that a hard concept for you to fathom? Check your headspace & timing as your M2 is malfunctioning trooper!

Canis-can't-believe-some-mind-sets-Lupus :ninja:

WOW, did I deserve all that...

I feel sorry for you... :(