Gun Related Stupid Movie Mistakes

[TlWheatley]

Back in the revolver days,officers almost always had their finger on the trigger.

[spirit4earth]

No muzzle flash and no recoil. They shoot their pistols with one hand and there's NO kick!!!

[Bighouse Doc]

My favorite was in Saving Private Ryan, when the US sniper was getting ready to shoot the German sniper. The US guy reached up to the objective lens on his scope, twisted it, and said, "Two clicks." He pretended to be changing the range, but instead he was focussing the scope.

What even funnier is that the REAL scopes on the '03 A4 were teensy little things. Complete junk by todays standards.

1903-A4 Sniper Rifle

And the actor even thought he could hit Adolph Hitler '...up to, and including one mile..."

WW2 snipers had terrible weapons by todays standards. Their engagement distances were mostly under 300yds (which was a LONG shot for them)!

-Doc

[Treo]

What even funnier is that the REAL scopes on the '03 A4 were teensy little things. Complete junk by todays standards.

1903-A4 Sniper Rifle

And the actor even thought he could hit Adolph Hitler '...up to, and including one mile..."

WW2 snipers had terrible weapons by todays standards. Their engagement distances were mostly under 300yds (which was a LONG shot for them)!

-Doc

During the three days battle in the Lincoln County War McSween partisan Jose Chavez Y Chaves is credited with hitting a Murphy/Dolan fighter at just over a mile and a half over iron sights with a Sharps buffalo gun

[dcselby1]

A coupled of my favorite boo boos were in the same (I believe) in a Rambo movie. In once scene, Rambo was on top of a huge rock overlooking a river, I think. He had LAW on his shoulder, preparing to fire. As I recall, a team mate slapped him on the shoulder indicating he should fire or was clear, I guess. Anyway, the camera panned around BEHIND Rambo and at one point behind the LAW and you could see straight through the tube to the river!

In another scene (or anotheRamboob movie) he was in the cockpit of a Huey and (windshield shot out, I believe) with another LAW with the cabin full of people and he fired through thwindshielded with nback blastst whatever.

[Bighouse Doc]

During the three days battle in the Lincoln County War McSween partisan Jose Chavez Y Chaves is credited with hitting a Murphy/Dolan fighter at just over a mile and a half over iron sights with a Sharps buffalo gun

Of course, without optics, one can't even see a tiny person a mile and a half away!.

This is either a tall story, or one of the luckiest, random hits in history.

Having shot National Match Courses, using a match grade M1A at 800yds, the black is 44 inches. It is a teensy spot on the post!

Now at 2640 yards(1.5 miles), that bull would now be a mere pinprick on the post.

A 72 x 18 inch human would all but be non-discernable at that distance. In fact, snipers in Afghanistan use astronomic telescopes for spotting at those distances!

Of course, this is assuming you have ballistic performance in the 50BMG class to reach that far.

The 50-90 buffalo gun shot a lead slug of 550 grains at around 1400 fps. The ballistic coefficient is .277. That buffalo bullet would have the trajectory of a mortar!

The 50 BMG class is in the range of .899 and above! The MV are in the 2900 fps range. Time of flight is over 4 seconds!

And we haven't even started thinking about winds, temps, earth rotation and all the other things in the long range sniper's world!

More than likely, the shot you are talking about was probably much less than one mile!

-Doc

[Treo]

Of course, without optics, one can't even see a tiny person a mile and a half away!.

This is either a tall story, or one of the luckiest, random hits in history.

Having shot National Match Courses, using a match grade M1A at 800yds, the black is 44 inches. It is a teensy spot on the post!

Now at 2640 yards(1.5 miles), that bull would now be a mere pinprick on the post.

A 72 x 18 inch human would all but be non-discernable at that distance. In fact, snipers in Afghanistan use astronomic telescopes for spotting at those distances!

Of course, this is assuming you have ballistic performance in the 50BMG class to reach that far.

The 50-90 buffalo gun shot a lead slug of 550 grains at around 1400 fps. The ballistic coefficient is .277. That buffalo bullet would have the trajectory of a mortar!

The 50 BMG class is in the range of .899 and above! The MV are in the 2900 fps range. Time of flight is over 4 seconds!

And we haven't even started thinking about winds, temps, earth rotation and all the other things in the long range sniper's world!

More than likely, the shot you are talking about was probably much less than one mile!

-Doc

Just telling you what the historical record says Billy Dixon did the same thing at the battle of Adobe Walls at a mile

Dixon led the founders of Adobe Walls to the Texas Plains, where he knew buffalo were in abundance. The group of 28 men and one woman occupied the outpost of five buildings 15 miles northeast of Stinnett.

The outpost was attacked on June 27, 1874 by a band of 700 to 1200 Indians, and that is when Dixon went into the history books for firing "The Shot of the Century which effectively ended the siege. Although, Billy Dixon states in his biography that it was a "scratch shot", he is still honored to this day with competitions in England and the US which attempt to match his skill.

The stand-off continued into a third day, when a group of Indians were noticed about a mile east of Adobe Walls. It is said that Dixon took aim with a quickly borrowed 50/90 Sharps (as, according to his biography, he only had a 45/90 and felt it could not reach) buffalo rifle and fired, knocking an Indian near Chief Quanah Parker off his horse almost a mile away on his third shot. The Indians then left the settlement alone. Commemorative "Billy Dixon" model reproduction Sharps rifles that supposedly recreate the specifications of Dixon's famous gun are still available today.

Billy Dixon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But hey, you're a genius I can't tell you nothin'

[CathyInBlue]

There's no accounting for raw, unrefined luck.

[Treo]

There's no accounting for raw, unrefined luck.

IMO luck would be if he just pointed in the general direction, pulled the trigger and got a hit.

My point was that even if the first was a tall tale (and I don't discount that possibility) the fact remains that Billy dixon was able to see, aim at and hit a human being over iron sights a mile away.

[kerb]

In one of the first episodes of the Walking Dead, the main character takes refuge in a tank. There's a body inside that comes back to life, so he shoots it. With no hearing protection... And a few seconds later he hears someone trying to contact him over the radio.... Hollywood never does a good job with the noise factor. Nobody ever has ears in, and they're always whispering their plans of escape during the gunfight.

The walking dead is such a great show that I'm willing to forgive them just about anything though. Love that show!

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