I am one of the lifetime members that paid a fortune or as we like to say helped him build the place with our money. I will admit I am bitter that after he took over 6k or so from us he started to sell memberships of the same level for as low as $200. He always promoted and still does with relentless spamming. Good training I have been there a dozen times or so. It is not the elite facility it once was in my opinion, lots of people who are there now have little invested and really do not take it a seriously as they should and have more of a party mentality. You have to DG to go on to more advanced classes and will be stuck taking over and over the same basic 2-4 day class. My wife has trouble being fast enough so I take the basic class over and over with her. She is really an accomplished shooter and could benefit from more advanced classes, but with little strength has trouble running the action fast enough to make the time in malfunction testing and I feel is asked to draw faster to be safe than she can but I would not want to get into a gun fight with her. Speed comes with time and should not be so important for everyone. Speed does not always win the gun fight. Knowing that she just is not blistering fast causes her to get hyper and then she try’s t hard and fails. I train police and see very few cops that are as fast as her, she out shot most of the cops at our last RTC and should be fast enough for front site to graduate to a more advanced course with me. For the price its good training, just remember the course is one thing, the hotel food, travel and ammo really adds up. Go there to be serious to make it worthwhile. They have lost some real key people in my opinion recently and wonder why? I do not think that if the business is good that you have to give it away, give guns away and have promotions every week to get people there. They also used to have turning targets which was cool because most private citizens don’t get to use them and that is gone as well as the nigh shoots except for advanced classes that you may not ever get to. They still show them on their promotional videos leaving you to believe that’s the everyday course but it is not. I have seen that out of 40 people in a class, 3 to 4 graduate Distinguished to go on to a more advanced class.