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    Is a gun like a virus, tobacco or alcohol? According to “public health experts,“ who in the wake of recent mass shootings are calling for a fresh look at gun violence as a ”social disease,” it is.
    What we need, they say, is a “public health approach” to the problem.
    Dr. Garen Wintemute of University of California, Davis claims it is no longer enough to tackle gun violence by focusing solely on the people doing the shooting. Dr. Stephen Hargarten, who treated victims of the Sikh temple shootings at the emergency department he heads in Milwaukee, feels the same way.
    “What I’m struggling with is, is this the new social norm?” he asked, before asserting: “This is what we’re going to have to live with if we have more personal access to firearms.”
    He continued: “We have a public health issue to discuss. Do we wait for the next outbreak or is there something we can do to prevent it?”
    -Disease patterns, observing how a problem spreads. Gun ownership – a precursor to gun violence – can spread “much like an infectious disease circulates,” said Daniel Webster, a health policy expert and co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore. “There’s sort of a contagion phenomenon” after a shooting, where people feel they need to have a gun for protection or retaliation, he said.


    Public Health ‘Experts’ Targeting Gun Violence as ‘Public Health Issue’ | TheBlaze.com

    These so called 'Doctors' really need to STFU. The only disease that I see within this article is the Anti 2nd-Amendment Mindest that comes from Liberalism -aka- 'LibTardism'. And everyone should know by now that modern day liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
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    Since you are far more likely to die from incompetence at the hand of a doctor, then from a deranged gunman's bullet, I think this concerned MD's need to spend more time examining their own problems.

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    Everybody want to blame "The Gun" and not the nut cases who get the gun, Illegally I might add!! I will place the article under the file called "Bull Crap!!!"
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    lets see if i got this right? keep guns away from crazy people.......good luck w/that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    [B]These so called 'Doctors' really need to STFU. The only disease that I see within this article is the Anti 2nd-Amendment Mindest that comes from Liberalism -aka- 'LibTardism'. And everyone should know by now that modern day liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
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    TO some extent I have to agree with the premis, however we as a society need to look inward for the cause and solution.

    Too many families are made up of individuals that have minimal interpersonal interaction. Dads go off to fend for the family and spend more and more time at the job rather than interacting with the offspring they are supposed to be responsible for. Moms have to take up a second household job to make ends meet because of the failing economy and because most families have never learned to live within their means. The children are left in the care of others that are only responsible to the children for the paycheck involved or they are left to fend for themselves in front of a social media source or worse yet, in front of a computer game.

    This behavior develops into antisocial behavior issues as a child and compounds greatly as the child grows and goes off to college and become fodder for the liberal indoctrination from the "higher" education system. The behavior of high school and in increasing number of middle school social circles is increasingly degrading to the 'non-member' of the circle and outright humiliation and abhorrent behavior towards the outsiders is not only condoned but encouraged by the 'inner circle'.

    And yet the parents who are responsible for beginning this behavioral trait in the first place are the first ones to say the issue is someone else's fault and problem.

    I would say that we, as a society need to change. And that change has to start in the home.

    As far as people feeling the need to arm themselves against this kind of heinous act, I say the doctor is right. After witnessing ant and depraved and senseless as this or the Aurora massacre, people do want to be protected. Finally, I think, people are finally begininning to realize that their government can't of won't protect them in the moment. People are starting th wake up and see the blood in the streets and are saying to themselves "I won't let that happen to me."
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    I believe the increase in gun violence is not a social disease but rather the result of other social disease combined with a predisposition, or appetite for such violence.

    Lack of moral fiber, ethical behavior, respect, self worth, influence of sensationalized headlines, etc. The increase in school bullying is not a result of guns but rather the result of other social disorder. Much is fueled by lack of parenting as "latch-key" kids have no supervision and are subject to more influence by outside forces. Parenting has somewhat disappeared, replaced by "overparenting" in which little Jimmy's every whim is catered to by his parents, or underparenting in which mom and dad are deadbeats with kids... there's no homework, no moral fiber programmed at an early age, no meal on the table, the place looks like hell... full of garbage and the local rodents are hanging-out with their kids and nobody cares.

    But it's not this alone. This merely sets the background. If little Jimmy is already nutty, born of drug parents, fetal alcohol syndrome, various mental disorders or exhibits the elements of antisocial personality disorder (sociopath), then he's already on his way to becoming the next shooter. The gun is merely the tool of choice; the weapon could easily be a knife, a Ford Excursion or even a SPORK. Truth is, little Jimmy is nuts. Plenty of kids that grow up with these influences don't commit crimes. Many find the strength to rise above it and go on to be wonderful people.

    So despite the significant social disease prevelant in America, these violent types have other issues; mainly they're nutso.

    The next ime a pundit appears on TV asking what made Jimmy snap? Was it the rock music? Was he bullied? Did mommy not hug him? Ask THEM, what happened to nuts? When you fix that, you'll fix the violent spree killer problem.
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    I have said it before, and this could be the opening salvo.
    Obama care is not about your health or caring. It is about control.
    They can and will tax the cause of the costs of inner city gun violence, guns and ammo, and thus get their precious gun control using the logic that legal gun owners must help pay for the carnage. (Their logic not mine)

    Of course this Doctor fails to mention the wanton violence created and shown to kids by the elite Hollywood types.
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    So gun violence is a disease. When I am in imminent threat of my life, I will kill anyone and everyone who threatens me--I guess I am one sick puppy.

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    I agree, gun violence is a disease. But its vector isn't firearms. Wash your hands, take your vitamin C, and don't teach your kids that the world owes them something and they can solve their problems by being little arseholes.
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