Length Of Residency To Purchase Pistols In Washington

[The Gunny]

Originally Posted by gdcleanfun

On a side note, I was under the impression that the states of Washington, Oregon, and California were still holding out on issuing CCWs. I'm glad to hear that this may have changed. We plan on moving to the Pacific Northwest in the next couple of years, by then maybe they will have reciprocity with Nevada and we might not have to pay to take the class again for a few years at least, that is, if they honor Nevada's CCWs.

Oregon and Washington are both SHALL ISSUE states. In WA I went down to the county court house paid and with in about 2 weeks had my concealed pistol license CPL. Now some jurisdictions try to make you wait longer however the law says 30 days is the limit. Once you have a CPL there is no waiting period for purchasing a hand gun. I think it is 90 days to establish residency unless you are active duty military then it doesn't matter. No classes required for WA however they do require them in OR. WA has reciprocity with Idaho and Montana but very few states have reciprocity with OR.

[joesmo]

Originally Posted by wuzfuz

I have our lease agreement from our landlord that establishes my residency dating from August 1 instead of my Driver's License......

I live in Michigan, and a resident of Michigan. I bet I could fly in AZ and get a lease on an apartment in a heartbeat. Does that mean I'm a resident of AZ as of that date?

I'm not sure if you frequent message forums with regularity, but I found this place to be a valuable find. Sometimes we have to be careful how we craft our questions, the typed word is often misunderstood.

[Glock Fan]

A military ID or passport and a lease agreement from an office supply store would probably be enough to purchase a firearm. Some places go a step further if they suspect you're not a resident by asking for a utility bill (phone, cable, gas, etc). I guess you could say that all utilities were included with the rental or you live on base, but some of us just aren't that crafty.

If you play the part, they'll have no reason to suspect that you're new to the area.



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[netentity]

Originally Posted by wuzfuz

I was proud to serve the people of my county, but I got into police work at an age when others were retiring. I had RK to make my eyeglasses lighter and make me able to function better in a fight, and ended up with nightblindness and 'stars'around lights at night. I was a jail officer when I discovered the pistols in the inmate property locker when I reported to work. This was a standard routine with me, to familiarize me with who was in our jail, what proerty they had, etc. The jailer I relieved couldn't have cared less, it was just a job to him, and I wanted to be the best. Having my lease agreement was a suggestion of one of the clerks, as one store wanted to use the issue date on my DL for residency, and my wife and I got our licenses almost a month after we moved. The clerk said I should get a copy of my lease, to show that I had rented our home on the first of August instead of the 28th. Makes sense to me. I did not tell them I moved to Washington on the 28th of August, they got that off my DL, and what I said didn't mean beans to them. I am thrilled to have found usacarry.com, and enjoy the byplay with all of you. However, if you keep implying that I am prevaricating, then I shall simply talk to others and ignore you. I would much rather be a friend than an adversary. How about it? As far as my feelings about Front Sight, I am positive their training far surpasses the training I got in the academy and through our department. I am going by the statements of those who have taken one or more of Front Sight's classes. Like hte former Marine whose two sons are going to be deployed to Iraq, and he sent them to Front Sight. I am convinced that Front Sight has the best training available, if you disagree, that is your privilege.

Either you were a commissioned LEO or your weren't. A jailer or corrections officer is not a commissioned LEO. You also mentioned that you were required to take the AZ CCW class to get your permit. Well, an AZ POST certified LEO with a decade of experience is exempt from the AZ CCW training requirement. If you're not a seasoned LEO that is exempt from taking the CCW class from where you served as a LEO or qualify for the LEOSA then you never were a LEO in my opinion. Since you acknowledged that you were a jailer you never had enforcement powers in any State and thus never a LEO.

As for Front Sight. Piazza committed what I believe to be real estate fraud to generate the venture capital for his firearm training business. There was a federal lawsuit against Front Sight in the 9th Circuit for this. Unless he has made full restitution to every "first family" for the parcel of land they purchased he in my opinion is just a RKBA version of P.T. Barnum. I will never have anything to do with someone or an entity that will commit such fraud. I agree with Ted Nugent's philosophy of the RKBA however I will never commit any form of fraud to promote the RKBA.

Piazza was going to start a RKBA master planned community in southern Nevada near the Clark and Nye County lines. To my knowledge not one home has been built. It's just another pyramid scam.

[wuzfuz]

You probably could get an apartment in Arizona right away, and no one would even question you at a gun store. However, there would be a 5 day wait for a handgun, unless you had an Arizona CCW permit, in which case, you buy the gun and take it home that day. I started witht he Pinal County Sheriff's Dept in 1975 as a dispatcher, then transferred into the jail when we had a mass resignation by jail officers. I becamse a reserve deputy, going through the academy of 480 hours.. I served three six-month terms as a probationary deputy in Civil Dicision, the became a deputy in District two, the largest district in our county, I was promoted to corporal, and supervised the seven deputies in our district. I was the line supervisor and supervised the district of 986 sq. miles. Our sergeant was the admin supervisor and I was the line supervisor. I decided to have RK to reduce the weight of my eyeglasses, and had to leave the department and the Arizona City Fire Dept, due to the vision problems I had after the surgery. A buck and a half and a copy of my commission card mght have bought me a cup of coffee. I just read about the problems at Front Sight, and was shocked. I only have a little over a week and I can get my pistol. Does that answer your questions?

[netentity]

Originally Posted by wuzfuz

You probably could get an apartment in Arizona right away, and no one would even question you at a gun store. However, there would be a 5 day wait for a handgun, unless you had an Arizona CCW permit, in which case, you buy the gun and take it home that day. I started witht he Pinal County Sheriff's Dept in 1975 as a dispatcher, then transferred into the jail when we had a mass resignation by jail officers. I becamse a reserve deputy, going through the academy of 480 hours.. I served three six-month terms as a probationary deputy in Civil Dicision, the became a deputy in District two, the largest district in our county, I was promoted to corporal, and supervised the seven deputies in our district. I was the line supervisor and supervised the district of 986 sq. miles. Our sergeant was the admin supervisor and I was the line supervisor. I decided to have RK to reduce the weight of my eyeglasses, and had to leave the department and the Arizona City Fire Dept, due to the vision problems I had after the surgery. A buck and a half and a copy of my commission card mght have bought me a cup of coffee. I just read about the problems at Front Sight, and was shocked. I only have a little over a week and I can get my pistol. Does that answer your questions?

It's rare that someone is in two branches of public safety; law enforcement and fire fighting. Many LEOs cannot pass the physical tests to be a fire fighter. If I recall correctly AZ had no civilian CCW until the late 90s even for honorably retired LEOs.

As for why you can't take possession of your pistol, it's RCW 9.41.90(1)(c) not federal law that is keeping you from taking possession of your pistol. If you have a valid WA CPL, you should be exempt from any residency requirements under (1)(a) of the same code.

[gdcleanfun]

Officer Murphy, the Sheriff's Deputy we talked about on here a few weeks ago who was shot at the Terrible's RV Lakeside complex in Pahrump, Nevada, began his public service as a firefighter. You are correct, it's rare, but those who do both are in really good physical condition because of it. I believe that it took Officer Murphy very little time to recover from him wounds because he IS in such good physical condition.

[netentity]

Originally Posted by gdcleanfun

Officer Murphy, the Sheriff's Deputy we talked about on here a few weeks ago who was shot at the Terrible's RV Lakeside complex in Pahrump, Nevada, began his public service as a firefighter. You are correct, it's rare, but those who do both are in really good physical condition because of it. I believe that it took Officer Murphy very little time to recover from him wounds because he IS in such good physical condition.

Was he doing both simultaneously? Typically the demands of one branch of public safety require you to leave the other. Fire fighting and law enforcement are both physically demanding. I find it highly doubtful that someone could do full time shifts in both branches of public safety simultaneously. Also keep in mind that public safety has mandatory overtime for both civilian and commissioned employees. Leaving one branch for the other is no big deal, but working both?

[Glock Fan]

Originally Posted by wuzfuz

A buck and a half and a copy of my commission card mght have bought me a cup of coffee. ..... Does that answer your questions?

I'll give you $10 for a copy of your "commission card". Next question, where can I send the money????



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[wuzfuz]

Pinal County, Arizona lies between Maricopa County, or Phoenix, and Pima County, or Tucson. It is a rural area, so we had to be triple trained. We were trained as LEOs, Fire Fighters and EMTs, because often our nearest backup might be up to an hour away, so we had to be able to take care of any situation. I was so intrigued by the fire fighting, I joined the Arizona City Volunteer Department. As a corporal for the SO, I carried a pager, and on the other hip, I carried a pager for the ACVFD. I had to give up both when I had RK surgery to reduce the weight of my eyeglasses, as I considered them to be a hazard. Unfortunately, I was left night blind and at night, I have 'stars' around light sources. Why anyone would want a copy of my commission card, I don't know, but it is academic, as the department collected it when I left. They have a thing, apparently, about former deputies still carrying around their official ID. They even tried to make me turn in my wallet badge that I paid $55 for. Since they would not reimburse me, I told them to to go see Helen Hunt about it. They called me at home ans said to bring my wallet badge in and I said, "Go to Helen Hunt for it." I have heard nothing from either the Lacey Police Dept or the Attorney General's office, and next Tuesday I get my new handgun.