Length Of Residency To Purchase Pistols In Washington

wuzfuz · #1 10-15-2008, 05:33 PM

I just received my Washington state Concealed Pistol license and went to the gun store to buy an XD-45. The clerk said I had to be a resident of Washington for 90 days before I could buy a handgun. I have never heard anything so stupid. As I understood the material I had access to, the 90 day residency was to apply for a CPL to be delivered in 30 days. Otherwise, it would be 60 days. The clerk a tthe store had told me as soon as I had my permit, I could come in and pick up my handgun. I cannot find anywhere in any meterial I have that says you have to live in Washington for 90 days prior to buying a handgun. What say you, folks?

Glock Fan · #2 10-15-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wuzfuz

I just received my Washington state Concealed Pistol license and went to the gun store to buy an XD-45. The clerk said I had to be a resident of Washington for 90 days before I could buy a handgun. I have never heard anything so stupid. As I understood the material I had access to, the 90 day residency was to apply for a CPL to be delivered in 30 days. Otherwise, it would be 60 days. The clerk a tthe store had told me as soon as I had my permit, I could come in and pick up my handgun. I cannot find anywhere in any meterial I have that says you have to live in Washington for 90 days prior to buying a handgun. What say you, folks?

Why do you need a CPL when you're covered by LEOSA? How do they determine your length of residence in the state of WA? When I established residency in GA, the clerk checked my ID and noticed the "exam date" (serves as the date of issue) of a week before my purchase. The clerk asked if I lived in GA for the last 6 months, and I responded "yes". Wasn't sure why asked, didn't bother to ask.

It could be either federal law or ATF guidelines that require them to ask if you've been a resident of the state for at least 90 days. I can think of a few ways that the store clerks can check on this, but won't advertise here. A lot of times it's how you conduct yourself and interact with the clerks at the gun stores.

gf

wuzfuz · #3 10-16-2008, 12:39 PM

With all due respect, why do you believe I would be covered by LEOSA? Being a former deputy sheriff really endows me with no rights or abilities others do not share. I am a citizen, albeit one who has received more training than the average person, even though I would give anything to attend the training at Front Sight Resorts. One shop I talked to said it was a BATF regulation aobut the 90 day residency. I have been all over the United States, and have never heard of a residency requirement of 90 days to purchase a handgun. the only regulation or law that I know of is that you must be a resident of a state to purchase a handgun in that state. I could not expect to go to Oregon, let's say, and buy a handgun. Afte all, I got a pawn shop along the Mexican border shut down when I was a jailer for an Arizona county. DPS had brought in three illegals, and each one of them had a cheap .38 special pistol, with consecutive serial numbers. they had the receipts in their property, and I notified one of our detectives, who brought in an ATF agent. I heard later the pawn shop that sold the illegals the guns had been raided and closed down for many illegal sales. I have our lease agreement from our landlord that establishes my residency dating from August 1 instead of my Driver's License, dating from August 28, so the first week in November, I can pick up my new XD-45. Thank you for your reply.

ronwill · #4 10-16-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wuzfuz

One shop I talked to said it was a BATF regulation aobut the 90 day residency. I have been all over the United States, and have never heard of a residency requirement of 90 days to purchase a handgun. the only regulation or law that I know of is that you must be a resident of a state to purchase a handgun in that state.

Residency requirements very by state. Some do require you live in the state for a period of time with 90 days seeming an average. Unless your military, they also require you to obtain a drivers license within that state. Obtaining a resident CCW permit also requires you to obtain residency within that state. As for purchasing handguns, yes you must be a resident of the state your purchasing them in. Once again there can be a certain time requirement for that.

Glock Fan · #5 10-18-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wuzfuz

With all due respect, why do you believe I would be covered by LEOSA? Being a former deputy sheriff really endows me with no rights or abilities others do not share. I am a citizen, albeit one who has received more training than the average person, even though I would give anything to attend the training at Front Sight Resorts. One shop I talked to said it was a BATF regulation aobut the 90 day residency. I have been all over the United States, and have never heard of a residency requirement of 90 days to purchase a handgun. the only regulation or law that I know of is that you must be a resident of a state to purchase a handgun in that state. I could not expect to go to Oregon, let's say, and buy a handgun. Afte all, I got a pawn shop along the Mexican border shut down when I was a jailer for an Arizona county. DPS had brought in three illegals, and each one of them had a cheap .38 special pistol, with consecutive serial numbers. they had the receipts in their property, and I notified one of our detectives, who brought in an ATF agent. I heard later the pawn shop that sold the illegals the guns had been raided and closed down for many illegal sales. I have our lease agreement from our landlord that establishes my residency dating from August 1 instead of my Driver's License, dating from August 28, so the first week in November, I can pick up my new XD-45. Thank you for your reply.

You keep tossing around the phrase "As a former LEO", so I figured that you retired when you were given the chance. Now that you say that you don't qualify under LEOSA, I understand that you didn't retire. Thanks for clearing that up.

Not sure why you would "give anything" to attend Frontsight. As a "former LEO", the training you received is probably far better than what mere civilians are going to get at Frontsight. If you really want to go, you can "give" $1k or so, and I'm sure they'll be more than happy to train you.

You happened to find 3 illegals that had consecutive serial numbers on their "cheap .38 special" pistols? You're one lucky guy. Mind picking some lottery numbers for me the next time I get a chance to play? I gotta put my boots on and get a shovel, it's gettig kinda thick.

What compelled you to take your lease agreement along wth you when you went gun shopping? It's not something folks normally do. The date of issue of your ID is just that, the date of issue. How would the gun shop know how long you lived in the state? Last time I renewed my DL, I got a new "date of issue". Does that mean that I just moved to the state? No, it means that I got a new DL on that date. It could be a duplicate ID for all they know.

I'm done, I think I've made my point.

gf

S&WM&P40 · #6 10-18-2008, 10:44 AM

LOL good old Glock Fan never fails to drive his points home.. WOW that really sucks sorry to hear that. What i think he was saying was. He has his lease and by the lease he has been living there longer then the issue date on the DL. So I think he is saying so he can get his gun sooner he is going to take it with him. To show proof that he has been there the 90 days. Some states you need a letter from the land lord saying you have been his tenant from the set date then signed and Stamped with a Notary of public seal on the latter. I had to do that song and dance in Vermont when i moved there for a WHOLE MONTH.. Any way the good news is you can still get the gun YEAH... In the end that's all that matters right? It will make it all the more sweeter when you do get it.

gdcleanfun · #7 10-18-2008, 10:10 PM

On a side note, I was under the impression that the states of Washington, Oregon, and California were still holding out on issuing CCWs. I'm glad to hear that this may have changed. We plan on moving to the Pacific Northwest in the next couple of years, by then maybe they will have reciprocity with Nevada and we might not have to pay to take the class again for a few years at least, that is, if they honor Nevada's CCWs.

wuzfuz · #8 10-24-2008, 03:28 PM

I was proud to serve the people of my county, but I got into police work at an age when others were retiring. I had RK to make my eyeglasses lighter and make me able to function better in a fight, and ended up with nightblindness and 'stars'around lights at night. I was a jail officer when I discovered the pistols in the inmate property locker when I reported to work. This was a standard routine with me, to familiarize me with who was in our jail, what proerty they had, etc. The jailer I relieved couldn't have cared less, it was just a job to him, and I wanted to be the best. Having my lease agreement was a suggestion of one of the clerks, as one store wanted to use the issue date on my DL for residency, and my wife and I got our licenses almost a month after we moved. The clerk said I should get a copy of my lease, to show that I had rented our home on the first of August instead of the 28th. Makes sense to me. I did not tell them I moved to Washington on the 28th of August, they got that off my DL, and what I said didn't mean beans to them. I am thrilled to have found usacarry.com, and enjoy the byplay with all of you. However, if you keep implying that I am prevaricating, then I shall simply talk to others and ignore you. I would much rather be a friend than an adversary. How about it? As far as my feelings about Front Sight, I am positive their training far surpasses the training I got in the academy and through our department. I am going by the statements of those who have taken one or more of Front Sight's classes. Like hte former Marine whose two sons are going to be deployed to Iraq, and he sent them to Front Sight. I am convinced that Front Sight has the best training available, if you disagree, that is your privilege.