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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    I know that this is politically incorrect, but have any of you ever noticed that any time a Black person is shot, handled roughly, or in this case, killed by police, so called civil rights activists come out of the woodworks to protest? Am I the only one who has noticed that (by the way, I'm Black too). I'm just surprised we haven't heard anything from Al and Jesse yet.


    Tatt,I think that is in part due to the political correctness of the country. Lets face it if I were to point that out to loudly I would be labeled a raciest. If you do it you would be labeled and "Uncle Tom" . It is unfortunate but to a large part that is the America we live in right now.
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    Shameful event. rip to the innocent victim, and my prayers are with the officer, and his family. i can only imagine how he feels. All comes down to training training training. looks like a life time settlement for the family.

    I know that this is politically incorrect, but have any of you ever noticed that any time a Black person is shot, handled roughly, or in this case, killed by police, so called civil rights activists come out of the woodworks to protest? Am I the only one who has noticed that (by the way, I'm Black too). I'm just surprised we haven't heard anything from Al and Jesse yet.
    NO, I have never known this, but look at our past tatt. racial inequality still existed withing our immediate lives. there are still pro segregationists still alive. Although dieing out. They still exist. This makes it extra taboo, and an extra open eye out for racism. Whites had it the best for the greater part of 300 years in the US, blacks did not. If this were a chinease, white , or italian kid, it would have been just as wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Tatt,I think that is in part due to the political correctness of the country. Lets face it if I were to point that out to loudly I would be labeled a raciest. If you do it you would be labeled and "Uncle Tom" . It is unfortunate but to a large part that is the America we live in right now.
    You're right. All this reminds me of an incident that happened here in my hometown 3 years ago. The police were responding to a burglary. When they arrived, a 16-year old Black kid was at the scene and started running. An officer who believed the kid was reaching into his pants pocket for a weapon, shot him in the back of the head, killing him. This incident outraged the community because of the fact the the kid was unarmed. Al and Jesse, however, were nowhere to be found? Why? Because the officer who shot him was Black. I'd bet the rent that if the officer had been White, Al and Jesse would have been all over it.
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    These guys are not patriots. Pay attention at about 3 minutes 30 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomboy007 View Post
    These guys are not patriots. Pay attention at about 3 minutes 30 seconds.

    LiveLeak.com - Video Shows Alleged Police Beating
    Wow you could have started a new thread with that one!! A very controversial video... A belligerent, foul mouthed, pugnacious young man and the officers who seemingly lose thier cool with him. The escalation that took place definately could have been avoided. Cool heads always prevail.

    By the way, the former BART officer who shot the unarmed suspect was arrested in Nevada without incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomboy007 View Post
    These guys are not patriots. Pay attention at about 3 minutes 30 seconds.
    Just a quick Follow up to this..


    Contrasts at Deptford police trial | Philadelphia Inquirer | 06/28/2007

    Posted on Thu, Jun. 28, 2007



    Contrasts at Deptford police trial
    The opening statements presented entirely different views of some violent footage.
    By Jan Hefler

    Inquirer Staff Writer

    Deptford Township Patrolman John Gillespie is either a bad cop who arrested and choked a cursing motorist during a car stop, or the victim of someone who pretended to be battered so he could file a million-dollar police brutality lawsuit.

    The two portraits of Gillespie, a patrolman in the Gloucester County township for two years, emerged yesterday as his trial on charges of aggravated assault and official misconduct opened.

    Dashboard cameras in two police cars recorded the Feb. 2, 2006, confrontation. In their opening statements yesterday, prosecutors and defense lawyers disagreed on what the videotapes actually show.

    "The defendant's crimes were recorded on video and audio," Assistant Gloucester County Prosecutor Paul Colangelo told Superior Court Judge M. Christine Allen-Jackson and the jury. Colangelo said that Joseph A. Rao, the 19-year-old Philadelphia motorist stopped for running a stop sign, was sitting in the back of Gillespie's cruiser, handcuffed, when he uttered an obscenity. That, according to the prosecutor, caused Gillespie and Patrolman Timothy Parks to attack Rao.

    "The defendant is hollering, 'What do you have to say? What do you have to say?' and the hollering is accompanied by a choking sound, the sound of Mr. Rao choking and gasping for breath," said Colangelo.

    Not so, said Ron Helmer, the defense attorney for Gillespie, 25.

    "Officer Gillespie made a very serious mistake. Halfway into the motor vehicle stop, he tells Mr. Rao this is on video," said Helmer.

    "Only after that do you hearing choking sounds," said Helmer, who noted Rao had no injuries to his neck.

    Helmer said Rao has been convicted of making terroristic threats against a police officer in Philadelphia and hates police. Rao wanted to provoke Gillespie so that he could sue for brutality, Helmer said. Rao has filed a notice of intent to sue the township and the two patrolmen for $1 million, claiming he suffered severe emotional, psychological and physical harm.

    "He's got a million reasons, a motive to lie so he can get his million dollars," said Helmer.

    Rao was treated for cuts, bruises and pain at Underwood-Memorial Hospital in Woodbury after the struggle. He was expected to testify.

    The 14-minute videos, laced with profanity spewed by Rao and Gillespie, show Gillespie stopping Rao's car, then ordering Rao out of the car.

    When Rao protests, Gillespie yanks him from the car and frisks him. The two begin arguing and swearing at each other.

    The showdown escalates after Gillespie places Rao in the backseat of the police car. At one point, Gillespie and Parks, his fellow patrolman, are both in the back with Rao.

    Gillespie and Parks are accused of choking, kicking and punching Rao. Parks is scheduled for trial later this summer. Another patrolman, Brian Green, a 28-year police veteran, is facing trial on charges of lying to investigators about what he saw at the police station, where another struggle allegedly occurred.

    Colangelo said police car recording equipment caught Gillespie offering to take off Rao's handcuffs when they get to the police station so "the two of us can go at it, no charges signed."

    Another surveillance tape, one that records activities at the station, shows Gillespie removing the cuffs, taunting Rao and then trying to choke him, Colangelo said.

    The trial is scheduled to resume today.



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    To watch the police car video of what prosecutors contend is the police beating, go to The traffic stop as it happened | Philadelphia Inquirer | 06/25/2007


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    Contact staff writer Jan Hefler at 856-779-3224 or jhefler@phillynews.com.
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