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Old 01-10-2009, 01:28 PM
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When I was in the Army the federal government trusted me enough to give me the necessary clearance to do my job. Now, the Fed's and Nye County and Nevada trust me enough to allow me a CCW. I paid good money for it. Still, each and every time I purchase a new firearm I have to pay again for a background check. What's the reasoning behind that? Strictly money, imho. We must pay if we want to play, but this is ridiculous!
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Doesn't make sense to me either.
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The way it was explained to me: Not so much a trust issue as how current is the info involved in the CCW check vs. the NICS check. Your CCW (or equivalent) may be more than several years old, during which time you _may_ have had it revoked, or committed some offense which, by itself, might not revoke it, but would prevent you from aquiring another weapon. The NICS is up to date to a much more recent standard.
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While in the military I had to have a periodic background check done to maintain my security clearance. The same goes for CCW permits. The main reason is to maintain current records and check for arrests between permits. It can be a pain but I support a shall issue system with background checks.
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Ronwill,
If the CWL were lifetime issue like Indiana, I would understand and even agree with NICS checks for gun purchases. However, in states like Florida, what the government is saying to me is, "We know you will get a background check every 3-7 years (depending on the state) (like we had for security clearances), but we don't trust you on the days in between, so you gotta do the NICS check." Either I can be trusted with the room full of guns I already own and can carry, or I can't. Another purchase isn't going to change that.
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In North Carolina you no longer need the background check or pistol purchase permit when you have a concealed carry permit.
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If the CWL were lifetime issue like Indiana, I would understand and even agree with NICS checks for gun purchases. However, in states like Florida, what the government is saying to me is, "We know you will get a background check every 3-7 years (depending on the state) (like we had for security clearances), but we don't trust you on the days in between, so you gotta do the NICS check." Either I can be trusted with the room full of guns I already own and can carry, or I can't. Another purchase isn't going to change that.
Wolfhunter maybe I misunderstood because I fully agree that the background checks done for a CCW permit should be sufficient for the NICS also. There should be no requirement for a redundant check. That's the way it is here in Georgia. Having a Georgia Firearms License means no NICS check for firearms purchases.
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You can thank the boys in blue for being greedy. The Nevada Sheriff's and Chief's Association wanted to increase fees in the same bill that would have made BATFE happy.
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In Texas your CHL is your back ground check.
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The way it was explained to me: Not so much a trust issue as how current is the info involved in the CCW check vs. the NICS check. Your CCW (or equivalent) may be more than several years old, during which time you _may_ have had it revoked, or committed some offense which, by itself, might not revoke it, but would prevent you from aquiring another weapon. The NICS is up to date to a much more recent standard.
I disagree. If keeping records current was the issue then the NICS would be mandated for renewal every year or even every few months, just so that "they" can keep on top of things. It's not. It's every 5 years. If I never purchased another firearm it would still be every 5 years. Having to pass a background check every time I want another toy makes no sense. It's not required in all states. Requiring this is equivalent to having to renew my drivers license every time I want to purchase another vehicle. How many people would go along with it if that was the law? As well, if I had no CCW then I could see where a background check would be required each and every time. But if I did something wrong then my CCW would be revoked, so there goes the argument of keeping things current.
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