North Carolina Sheriffs' Association against 2nd amendment

[gunther37]

North Carolina Sheriffs' Association against 2nd amendment. I know most of you agree with getting permission from your local sheriff to purchase a pistol but i feel that it is a statement of chopping down the 2nd amendment.

plus, how can the sheriff's association remove this propose bill from the calender? anyone?

If you agree with me and the Nra help us write the seante to get this back on the calender.
If we let them get away with this the next thing you know we will not be allowed to have large capacity magazines here in NC just like Cali.

Also, there is another bill in NC to do away with not being able to carry concealed in a resturaunt that serves alcohol, And another one to do away with not being able to carry in a state of emergency.

This is the link the to sheriffs kicking out the bill> NRA-ILA :: North Carolina: Bill to Remove Permit to Purchase Pulled From Calendar!

[Piece Corps]

Cross the state line and buy from out-of-state, then "don't ask, don't tell!" If I lived in NC, I wouldn't waste my time going to the local sheriff. MY 2nd Amendment says that I have the right to keep and bear arms, and not with the permission of my sheriff.

Actually, if I lived in NC, I'd move!

[gunther37]

Originally Posted by Piece Corps

Cross the state line and buy from out-of-state, then "don't ask, don't tell!" If I lived in NC, I wouldn't waste my time going to the local sheriff. MY 2nd Amendment says that I have the right to keep and bear arms, and not with the permission of my sheriff.

Actually, if I lived in NC, I'd move!

drive 4 hours and cross the line and pay va prices? think not! you telling me va doesnt require a paper permit fot buying a pistol?

[gunther37]

Did some research. Found out why the paper permit was created>
The Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed in 1919, and is a classic piece of Jim Crow-era legislation (Jim Crow History). The recognition of civil rights for blacks and other minorities meant that the Constitution applied to minorities. This meant that blacks and other minorities could exercise their natural right to self-defense, with the full support of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and Article I, Sec. 30 of the North Carolina Constitution. This did not sit well with the Ku Klux Klan (which for many years was headquartered in Raleigh, just down the street from the Legislature) and other racist groups and influential individuals. The racist members of the State Legislature knew they could not overtly prevent minorities from purchasing handguns for protection, so the seemingly innocent Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed. This law allowed local Sheriffs and government officials to discriminate with impunity at the local level.

Even today, the Pistol Purchase Permit law is implemented in an arbitrary and capricious fashion by 100 individual County Sheriffs. Some Sheriffs do little more than collect the fees and hand out permits to the law-abiding, because more than that is not necessary. Others implement ridiculous, intrusive requirements that either discriminate on a wholesale basis or are selectively applied so that discrimination can be more personalized.

With the advent of the National Instant Check System (NICS) there is no public safety reason why the Pistol Purchase Permit system needs to continue. The Jim Crow era is over, and the laws of that era need to be eliminated. Most people agree with that in principle, but for some reason when it comes to guns a significant number of people seem to think that discrimination and arbitrary requirements are a good thing. This is something NCRPA totally disagrees with.

We have been trying for 10 years to get the Pistol Purchase Permit system completely eliminated. Apparently when it comes to gun control a lot of people think Jim Crow is still a good idea.

[NDS]

It sure is nice to live in a state where I can walk into the store, say "I'll take it" and walk out with the pistol in a matter of minutes. Unfortunately, my county requires a little piece of butt-wipe called a blue card that registers the new purchase with the state. That adds about 2 minutes to the purchase time. The major pissoff is that Nevada steals $25 to run the background check the Feds will run for free in Arizona. I try to make long gun purchases in AZ for just that reason.

[spydrz]

Originally Posted by gunther37

drive 4 hours and cross the line and pay va prices? think not! you telling me va doesnt require a paper permit fot buying a pistol?

No permit in VA at all.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally Posted by spydrz

No permit in VA at all.

Don't need no stinkin' permit in Tennessee....

[Piece Corps]

Originally Posted by gunther37

drive 4 hours and cross the line and pay va prices? think not! you telling me va doesnt require a paper permit fot buying a pistol?

Drive where-ever you have to. Here in Florida, you have to wait for a few days, but there is no PERMIT to own a gun. I have a LICENSE to carry mine concealed.

Go to another state and score there. Matter of fact, if you watched that 20/20 piece, you could have gone to a VA gun show and purchased anything you wanted as long as you had cash.

[KimberPB]

Originally Posted by Piece Corps

Drive where-ever you have to. Here in Florida, you have to wait for a few days, but there is no PERMIT to own a gun. I have a LICENSE to carry mine concealed.

Go to another state and score there. Matter of fact, if you watched that 20/20 piece, you could have gone to a VA gun show and purchased anything you wanted as long as you had cash.

In Florida if you have a concealed carry permit you don't have to wait at all. Buy a pistol and leave that day with it. The FDLE call in is usually the longest part of the process.

[Piece Corps]

Originally Posted by KimberPB

In Florida if you have a concealed carry permit you don't have to wait at all. Buy a pistol and leave that day with it. The FDLE call in is usually the longest part of the process.

Yeah, but if you're from NC, you usually don't have a FL concealed permit. I was stating that gunther37 could drive in any number of directions from NC where he could buy a gun without the hassles.