First firearm purchase in Washington...

[Stiofan]

Originally Posted by NavyLT

No, we wouldn't be guessing. It's in a very easy to understand statute and dealers don't necessarily know the laws either, BTW.

Then I guess you should have answered right away instead of quoting my attempt to give the OP some advice. But you didn't. Not everyone here lives in Washington.

[vn6869]

Originally Posted by stonedkirby

this sucks...i found a glock 17 at a local shop for 375! WTF

I'm not from Washington state - just to qualify my answer.

BUT, if you find a gun at a dealer, you like it and feel it is a great price, there is NO reason you cann't put something down and have it held until the necessary registration / ID, etc. are received. I would doubt any dealer would bulk at such a sale. He will be glad to make the sale and understands the need for proper paperwork. Unless it is a consignment and the consignee won't agree to put it on layaway.

It seems you are a bit over-anxious. Good things will come in time. Unless you plan on only being in WA for a short time. I would put my energy / time to looking for the right gun for you. Checking out local gun dealers, ranges, clubs, etc. so when the time comes you are ready to roll.

[NavyLT]

Originally Posted by stonedkirby

Ok so i got a call from local sheriff today, asking if i had been a resident of WA for 90 consecutive days. Since i told him i have only been here about 50 days, he told me that he would put my license application on hold for 40 days, on the 40th day he would then submit it for review.
Now im not sure if this is him flexing his muscle, because under chapter RCW 9.41.070:

The chief of police of a municipality or the sheriff of a
county shall within thirty days after the filing of an application of
any person, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol concealed
on his or her person within this state for five years from date of
issue, for the purposes of protection or while engaged in business,
sport, or while traveling. However, if the applicant does not have a
valid permanent Washington driver's license or Washington state
identification card or has not been a resident of the state for the
previous consecutive ninety days, the issuing authority shall have up
to sixty days after the filing of the application to issue a license.
The issuing authority shall not refuse to accept completed applications
for concealed pistol licenses during regular business hours.

Now it seems to me, that to apply for and be elligible ofr a CPL, one must have a state ID or be a resident for 90 days. the key here, is or. if it were nessecary to meet all the requirements, it would say and. I meet the requirement of having a state id, of being a legal, registered resident of the state. The 90 days residency would seem to apply for a resident who is not planning on residing there for more than 6 months or so.

Also, it states that if i dont meet the requirements for a CPL, that the issuing authority will have up to 60 days after the filing of the application to issue a license.

chime in and tell me if my rights are being violated!

It is not a requirement to even be a resident of Washington in order to receive a Washington CPL. Read the statute again. It states, "However, if the applicant does not have a valid permanent Washington driver's license or Washington state identification card or has not been a resident of the state for the previous consecutive ninety days, the issuing authority shall have up to sixty days after the filing of the application to issue a license."

If you do not have a WA Dl, a WA ID, or have been a resident for less than 90 days, the issuing authority has up to sixty days to issue you a license. Nowhere does it say that a WA DL, a WA ID or 90 days residency is required. The issuing authority is given up to 60 days to issue the license in order for them to send out the background check to whatever other out of state LEO agencies they want to. The wait time that they can legally impose is merely 60 days vice 30 days.

You can't do anything about the fact that your sheriff is being a male organ about it. He is not going to give you your license until day 60. Island County sheriff does the same thing. They will hold on to it even after it is done until day 30.

However, as I stated, not even Washington residency is required for the CPL, 90 days residency is not required for the CPL and 90 days residency is not required for a handgun purchase - but without the CPL or 90 days residency for the handgun purchase, the wait time for the delivery of the handgun goes up to 60 days.

Now, if on day 61 the Sheriff does not issue the license, you can take court action against him, and if you can prove that he held on to your application for 40 days before submitting it, you have avery good case against him.

[NavyLT]

Originally Posted by stonedkirby

this sucks...i found a glock 17 at a local shop for 375! WTF

Pay your $375 on the gun and start the waiting period. If you receive your CPL before the waiting period is up for the gun, the dealer can give you the gun the same day you get your CPL.

[stonedkirby]

good advice Navy, You are awesome!

[NavyLT]

Originally Posted by stonedkirby

good advice Navy, You are awesome!

Good luck! Also, check the classified sections of THR - Powered by vBulletin and The Firing Line. They usually have some guns for sale in Washington by private parties.

[TR4A]

Originally Posted by Stiofan

If you have a Washington CCW permit you probably can get a gun immediately, as it waives your background check....at least it does here in Idaho.

Washington still require a background check WITH a CHP. No waiting period with the CHP. The 60 days the police are using is for non-resident CHP requirements.

From Acess Washington web site:

Access Washington - Become a Washington State Resident

To become a resident of the state of Washington, simply take some action that proves you intend to live in the state on more than a temporary or transient basis.

Examples of actions you can take:

Obtain a Washington State driver license
Register to vote
Buy property and/or maintain a residence

Persons are considered residents of this state for sales and use tax purposes if they take actions which indicate that they intend to live in this state on more than a temporary or transient basis. A person may be considered a resident of this state even though the person is a resident of another state.

Washington State residency definition

Washington State residency definition
Persons are considered residents of this state for sales and use tax purposes if they take actions which indicate that they intend to live in this state on more than a temporary or transient basis. A person may be considered a resident of this state even though the person is a resident of another state.

The Department of Revenue presumes that a person is a resident of this state if he or she does any of the following:


Maintains a residence in Washington for personal use;
Lives in a motor home or vessel which is not permanently attached to any property if the person previously lived in this state and does not have a permanent residence in any other state;
Is registered to vote in this state;
Receives benefits under one of Washington's public assistance programs;
Has a state professional or business license in this state;
Is attending school in this state and paying tuition as a Washington resident or is a custodial parent with a child attending a public school in this state;
Uses a Washington address for federal or state taxes;
Has a Washington State driver's license; or
Claims Washington as a residence for obtaining a hunting or fishing license, eligibility to hold public office or for judicial actions.
Persons may rebut the presumption of residency if they provide other facts which show that they do not intend to reside in this state on either a temporary or permanent basis. A Washington resident who intends to move at a future date, however, will be considered a Washington resident.

[stonedkirby]

hmmm very good to know!