Start first thread with a well written article by ESPN. http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/h...ory?id=3899236
HR 45 - This bill has gotten people fired up. They see it as a threat to their constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
To many gun owners, it's the tsunami of gun control legislation, the mother of all efforts to restrict private gun ownership and the guarantees of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
To others, it's just the latest anti-gun agitation, a formerly defeated proposal dredged back up for another try in this time of shifting political winds.
"It" is H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009. This bill was introduced in the 111th Congress by U. S. Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) on Jan. 6, 2009. Failing to attract any co-sponsors, it was referred for consideration to the House Committee on the Judiciary, where it now rests awaiting further action.
Second Ammendment Poll. http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickqu.../popup5895.htm
What a pointless poll. I was tempted to answer no, just because of the 2nd grade language that was used to word the poll question. The 2nd Amendment gives me nothing. I'll not further belabour that point in this forum.
I do, however, want to belabour the point... did Heller prove nothing??? I thought it was now a settled question. Government is not permitted to ban guns outright. WTF is going on? Will it take blood flowing waist deep in the storm drains to settle this issue?
I was under the impression that the Heller trial laid it out in black and white....guess we were wrong
If passed, it won't take very long before someone challenges this in federal court, and I doubt it would stand.
It is very obviously a way to maneuver around the second amendment. Plus, it would require those who already own guns to effectively pay to be able to have them. No grandfather clause.
In the end though, I doubt it will pass. Our so-called representatives in Congress are well aware that gun owners are very, very numerous and we WILL vote them out of office if they vote yes on something like this.
And, of course, there is the age-old idea of "you can have my gun when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands". Good luck to government officials who come rounding up "illegal" guns!
If it did get passed in to law ( which I would think it would not, but with this new admin. who knows ) there is not a chance in hell that I would give the government a list of the firearms I own. Like a great man once said they will have to pry them from my dead cold hands.
Sorry about the same post 3 times, every time I hit the post button it said error with post. but apparantly no error