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    Default Planning 9mm home protection ammo tests

    For some editorial reviews I'm planning, I intend to do some January-February tests of 9mm (Luger/Parabellum) ammunition intended for home protection. My reports are more qualitative than quantitative and somewhat informal, but I do hinge them on some observable factor.

    My intention for these tests is to place 5 canvas bags (so 10 layers of canvas) between fore and aft targets and compare the holes. That's simple for me to set up and execute and I have a zillion canvas bags.

    My focus is on how much stopping power can survive layers of clothing.

    Is there some modification to this set-up that I should consider that might be more informative? I'm doing my tests at a range (with special permission) so whatever I do has to pretty much hang from their target clamp; I'll probably prep the target sandwiches to include a top-side coat hanger.

    ALl shooting will be done from a full-size 9mm pistol.

    Beyond Hornady Critical Defense/Critical Duty and Federal Guard Dog (and half a dozen others I won't mention here), are there specific cartridges you'd recommend for these tests?

    I'm looking at multiple sometimes-conflicting factors: the ability to stop a guy wearing heavy clothing, the ability to still get him if he ducks behind a wall and the ability to use a cartridge that stops before it calls on the neighbors.

    You've all been generous with your advice before and I hope I'm not being presumtuous to ask it again.





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    Heavy denim jacket and Leather jacket should each be included in test. Looking forward to seeing your results.

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    "Stopping Power" is a myth and while these home brewed "tests" can be entertaining they provided no information of any real value.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    I think the chances of anyone ever getting attacked and needing a gun are pretty slim so why bother carrying one at all?
    "It's easier to avoid conflict than it is to survive it" - SGB

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    Id be curious what frangible ammo would do. If you add that in to your tests, let me know.

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    Is there any specific frangible ammo you would suggest?

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    Just make sure you properly calibrate the gel-block so the results are valid for comparison with other testing.

    -Doc

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    For frangible ammo look at/for Extreme Shock.

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    What about MagSafe for frangible?

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    Guys - I need to clarify.

    I'm not doing a quantitative depth-in-the-gel/diameter of the tunnel kind of testing.

    I'm shooting through 10 layers of canvas - a fair approximation of heavy clothing.

    I'm not doing thicknesses of drywall either.

    Paper target -> 10 layers of canvas -> paper target

    I can compare the entry and exit holes. That's about it. I can't capture the rounds. I can't tell anything about what happens when they exit the back target. It's a dirt-simple test for a single factor (penetration through cloth layers).

    Will the round muchroom? Will it simply jet through? I'll know that by comparing the front and back targets.

    And if any of these rounds don't make it all the way through the canvas, that will tell me something too.

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    I'll get in touch with MagSafe.

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