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Reply With Quoteprovided you get to it. but it wont stop momentum in car and you might miss under duress. and others get killed. best to stay out of the road.
I prefer a 9mm handgun
I prefer a .40 S&W handgun
I prefer a different caliber
Well, it depends.
9mm vs. .40 .40 cal will penitrate a windshield. 9 mm. wont.
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provided you get to it. but it wont stop momentum in car and you might miss under duress. and others get killed. best to stay out of the road.
+1 for 40 smith and wesson, yes its a slower round, but in the end has more knock down power.
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I have to go with what round I shoot most accurately, and that would be the 9mm or .380 auto. I would rather put two where I want them to go that put one there and the other somewhere else. I think it all comes down to what the individual shoots most accurately, at least for me personally.
I would suggest if you are going to carry a 9mm, you load it with 147 grain ammo. This will give you very close to the stopping power of a .40 SW. The bigger the bullet, the more stopping power. A .45 with a 230 is more than likely the top choice but these guns are generally to large or they don't hold enough ammo.
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My gun does not like the 147's. It will stove pipe with them - cartridge is too long. I pretty much stick to the 124's in a JHP.Originally Posted by Nomad1959
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This discussion reminds me of a Conan Movie...Conan's sword is so big he can barely swing it while everyone else has a normal sword... and he wins. Why? hooray for hollywood of course! In reality he gets chopped up into little pieces.
The facts are about a 9MM round vs a .40 round are pretty simple in terms of stopping someone...the person will be dropped unless you can't hit the side of a barn at the usual distance a gunfight usually occurs at. A hollowpoint 9MM (as long as you get a high velocity Self-defense round) will do plenty enough dammage. A .40 with a hollowpoint will do slightly more dammage. Placement of the bullet is what matters most. Caliber matters second.
My gripe with the "bigger is better" argument is the amount of control you have over your semi-auto handgun in a gunfight. The recoil on that gun means longer to re-aim and pull the trigger as well as less accuracy due to the energy you have to fight while firing the weapon to keep it still. Let's say you are in a gunfight and the first round or two is missed because of the intial panic you are in because, well, you are in a gunfight. The further your oponent is from you (and they will be backing up as they are shooting at you to try to get away from you and I bet you will be too), the worse your aim gets with the bigger caliber as you cannot control it as well as you can a 9 MM. The recoil of a 9MM is minimal and you can bring your aim back on the target much quicker than you can a .40, especially if you are shooting a sub-compact or a compact but even with a full size gun. This problem compounds with each bigger calliber and the more distance that is put between you and the perp.
For me, I would rather have 17 rounds to take out my perp and be able to squeeze out a couple more rounds at them in the few critical seconds you have to hit your target than think like Dirty Harry.
"A hollowpoint 9MM (as long as you get a high velocity Self-defense round) will do plenty enough dammage. A .40 with a hollowpoint will do slightly more dammage. Placement of the bullet is what matters most."
"For me, I would rather have 17 rounds to take out my perp and be able to squeeze out a couple more rounds at them in the few critical seconds you have to hit your target...."
this is probably why a 9mm would have ab edge. very little diameter difference and the chance to squeeze off a few more rounds....if data that i have read is true the percentage of hits in defensive situations is what??? fifty percent???
"I would suggest if you are going to carry a 9mm, you load it with 147 grain ammo."
is there such a thing??? how much longer is it??? and why have 147g if the 124g usually have more energy??
".40 cal will penitrate a windshield. 9 mm. wont."
is this actually true?? will a 3" barrel .40 or does it have to be a 4" barrel .40???
do most defensive shootings involve winshileds?? i doubt it.
