This is a discussion on Shoot upside down with ring finger? within the Handgun Tactics, Training, and Practice forums, part of the Handguns category; Ok..first let me answer Echo's question abt reaching with the back of my hand against the leg..I can do that ...
Ok..first let me answer Echo's question abt reaching with the back of my hand against the leg..I can do that but it is very difficult in two aspects. 1) as I withdraw, it's only normal that the pull tends to twist and I get a "little" wadded up on trying to get the gun out. 2) while trying not to twist, I get a sharp pain in my shoulder which then would cause even more difficulty in retrieval with some delay.
Now for the shoot. As I mentioned, I tried a couple of dry runs with a unloaded revolver. It is difficult to get ahold of the gun and hang on to it. First thing I noticed that if you tend to get your thumb and index finger (aka Booger Hook) around the grip, when you try to pull the trigger, the hammer will rub against the heel of your hand and it will startle you.
I did notice that when I fired the gun, the recoil was not as bad as I had anticipated. While shooting a 38 the "regular" way, you do get a little kick or buck to it snaping upwards. You would think that shooting upside down, the reverse would happen, the kick would be towards the ground. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't..I could not tell. It seemed to me that the recoil was not near as bad as it usually is. Was it due to me try'n to hold on to it and pull the trigger with my ring finger? (BTW, was almost impossible to pull the trigger with my middle finger while trying to hang on to it). As for the kick, I really didn't notice it, weird I know.
I can see that with more trainning and practice, I can make this work. It is very uncomfortable right now but that is because I am not use to it. I would much rather carry this snubbyin the "right" positition in my pocket and I will strive to do it that way, but this new exercise I can see being useful down the road at some point. It does not hurt to learn something new. Shooting upside down is a dicipline I would like to have some knowledge of and maybe some basic skill.
Next time you are at the range, and if the RO gives the okay, give it a try and learn for yourself and then decide if you need to pursue. I for one will contine to train with this method. Good luck and Be Safe!
DrLewall
"Doc"
Drakes Creeks, AR
www.kiltsrock.com
"A gun unloaded and cocked aint good for nuttin!"--Rooster Cogburn
Buy a Kel Tec 380 and a Nemesis holster. Gun sits perfect...no crazy firing methods.
Problem solved. :)
I have a IWB type holster for my ppk/s. It is of the pop-up type that places the butt of the gun below the waistline. It pinches things it shouldn't pinch when I am sitting. I now place the ppk butt backstrap towards the bottom of the pocket, both sights forward on my weak hand side. When I place a hand in my weak side pocket with my thumb over my belt or edge of pocket I can insert my finger inside the trigger guard ahead of the trigger and pull the gun out and my hand is wrapped around the slide. I can then reach over cross draw style with the strong side hand and grasp the butt of the gun. This can be done in very fast time with only a few practice draws. Even in my tightest jeans the hammer does not snag but I think I would grind it down for safety. This keeps the butt of gun from sticking out and the weight of the gun keeps the barrel towards the front of the pocket hiding it. I am trying to make a pocket holster that will secure it this way a little bit more in larger pockets. This is a different way of carrying but it is not upside down firing. Maybe this would work with your firearm.
Give me YOUR taylors number then.. :D (as I don't have one. :p )
I do have a Kel Tec p3at and I do sometimes carry it as my BUG, infact I have a couple of different options for BUG carry..I guess I was looking for a more reliable BUG and a wheel gun seems to be an option, although not my only option. For those who really care, I also carry, at times, a bersa 380+, 9mm, 22 rev, and of course, 2 45's
I think that shooting a gun upside down is NOT the best method but I can see where if you train yourself a time or two to do it, then if the
and for some stupid reason in the heat of battle you just happen to get ahold of a gun, yours or his, and it is upside down in your hand, then you will have the confidence to fire the gun as you have trained that way. I for one will train this way as you just never know, it may come in handy.
DrLewall
"Doc"
Drakes Creeks, AR
www.kiltsrock.com
"A gun unloaded and cocked aint good for nuttin!"--Rooster Cogburn
I had a pocket extended 3" then one day I carried on the hip and put some change in my pocket, when I reached in for the change I couldn't believe how deep 3 extra inches made the reach.
If you served in any branch of the Military, THANK YOU
we used to have to hit the deck roll onto our back and shoot over our head. i would advise not allowng yourself to be put into a postion where you have to do that, except as the last resort between staying alive and getting dead.:hmhm:
That is still taught and we all could have to shoot from any angle so I pratice with a bb gun in my back yard.I also shoot from a horse or from my riding lawn mower .What IF is the concern here. BB guns present a real good tool if the gun is the same shape as carry firearm.