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Thread: what can you react, do in 1.0 second, from low ready?

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    Default what can you react, do in 1.0 second, from low ready?

    cause that's about all the time you will get. The crap starts at 10 ft and closer, and he can certainly raise his gun and get off several TRIES at hitting you in 1.0 second. He can also charge from 10 ft and strike/tackle you in 1.0 second. From 6 ft, it's 1.2 second (or less, if he DIVES at you). A DIVING man is a very difficult target to hit, by the way! He can THROW that prybar, big flashlight, channel lock pliers at you in 1/4 second, and THEN charge/dive at you as you duck/block the flying item, too.

    From low ready, at 10 ft, you can learn to react, twitch up your rest, and hit the chest in less than 1/2 second, get 3 more chest hits in .50 second, too. it's not that tough to achieve this ability, given an SA .22, 380 or 9mm, either.





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    I think that the stats on draw, firing and accuracy in a matter of seconds is very interesting. But in a life or death situation, fine motor skills are out the window unless you shoot tactically literally every day. I believe the best practice is to take cover 1st in a fire fight situation and shoot from cover, and in the situation of a knife or any non-firearm type weapon drawing may not happen and some sort of evade or block tactic may have to happen 1st before draw and firing, especially with a concealed weapon.

    Within 21 feet, someone can stab another before that person can draw and fire. Blocking/evading the attack 1st before throwing lead will in itself, save your life. But the times mentioned in the post demonstrate how crazy fast things can happen and obviously, training for it is paramount. 21 feet...I tried it both ways as shooter and stabber. Too close to draw and shoot when they come running at you. Law enforcement know that if someone brandishes a knife within the 21 feet, its game over for the perp...its too close and not enough time to draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotti View Post
    cause that's about all the time you will get. The crap starts at 10 ft and closer, and he can certainly raise his gun and get off several TRIES at hitting you in 1.0 second. He can also charge from 10 ft and strike/tackle you in 1.0 second. From 6 ft, it's 1.2 second (or less, if he DIVES at you). A DIVING man is a very difficult target to hit, by the way! He can THROW that prybar, big flashlight, channel lock pliers at you in 1/4 second, and THEN charge/dive at you as you duck/block the flying item, too.

    From low ready, at 10 ft, you can learn to react, twitch up your rest, and hit the chest in less than 1/2 second, get 3 more chest hits in .50 second, too. it's not that tough to achieve this ability, given an SA .22, 380 or 9mm, either.
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    Wyatt Earp, said it is not speed but accuracy, I think I agree with him.

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    My advice: Put all your posts about the same or similair subject into 1 thread rather than 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    My advice: Put all your posts about the same or similair subject into 1 thread rather than 3.
    He has only one subject and that is too brag about how fast he is while in his nice little square range controlled environment.
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    I prefer ready-retain over low-ready. Fractions of a second count in such an encounter.

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    Not saying time isn't of the essence, just that I nevah saw a stop watch at a gun fight......just saying
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    I agree, as a LEO you learn the 21 foot rule. I spend hours on the range, I compete in USPSA/IPSC matches monthly and I am fast. But I know if some guy has a knife and begins to charge me, my skills will slow because all the shooting on the range will not train me for this. I may be able to draw my weapon from a concealed holster and hit a target at 7 yards in under 1.3 seconds (yes I can), but a true gun fight is not about speed. It is about you using your mind, getting in the warrior mind set, using one hand to block the knife, unholstering my weapon with the other hand, firing my handgun either from the hip or a close contact shot, etc. Any well trained LEO (law enforcement officer) knows that a suspect with a knife is a bad day all around. I have never had to fire my weapon on or off duty and I pray I never have to.

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