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~ Glock 27 ~
Seriously? WTF?? While taking some self defense classes over the weekend for the Texas level 3 armed guard certification training. I witnessed firsthand one of the 2 so called instructors actually 'threw' a 1.5 lb rubber training knife from about '6 feet' away without any warning whatsoever into a students face!
I was that student and it was my face!
Seriously!? WTF??
I ended up with a very large goose egg shaped contusion, 2 inches by 3 inches in diameter, bulging out just above my left eye on my left forehead area and a small cut/scrape below my left eye on my cheek.
When the practice knife struck me, I was immediatly in quite a bit of shock & pain and I quickly responded angrily by shouting at the instructor; "What the fk was that about?! What were you thinking dude!?"
The instructors both laughed (nervously) as if it was supposed to be funny and the lead instructor tried to blow it off as if it was nothing serious to worry about.
But the other students seemed to be in shock & disbelief at this instructors wreckless behaviour as was I.
Even after using an ice pack on the contusion for over 1.5 hours, it was still very large.
I wanted to 'check out' of the class and get a refund, but they refused to refund me my money for the level 2 & 3 classes. I was supposed to finish the level 3 training class the very next day (Tuesday), but I decided to not even attend. Training with 'live rounds' around these clowns did not seem like a very wise idea to me.
Now I'm out the $250.00 with not even the level 2 or 3 certificates to show for all of my time & efforts.
The lead instructor tried to contact me over the phone when I was over an hour late on Tuesday, but I chose not to take nor return his phone call. I'm hoping that maybe I could have some legal options in this case. I did go to a prima care to get checked out by a Doctor and I do have documentation and photos of the injuries.
It still hurts a bit even if I barely touch it or wash my face.
~Any thoughts or advice would really be appreciated.~
~The Dude Abides~
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Did you sign some type of waiver?
The waiver will probably state something like; training can be dangerous and you can be hurt while training.
The waiver will not protect them if there is negligence on their part but proving they were negligent may be difficult unless you have reputable witnesses that are willing to side with you.
Was throwing the fake knife part of the training or were they horsing around?
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Originally Posted by localgirl
~ Glock 27 ~
I still have the original signed waiver inside of my car in my possession. That's probably why the instructor was trying to reach me.
There was a total of 6 other students who witnessed the incident, but I don't have their phone numbers or names.
I am pretty darn sure that the unannounced knife throwing was not part of training.
It is not a Ninja School! LOL
~The Dude Abides~
Two words... Judge Judy
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
...Jesus Christ and the American G.I.
One died for your sins; the other for your freedom.
OK cool so you never signed a waiver for the class.
Contact them once more and try to work something out. The instructor may realize that it was kind of childish they way the did things and he may come up with a solution that you both agree on.
If the instructor acts like it's your loss tell him you want to be compensated for the class(es) you missed and the cost of the doctor's visit.
They will bring up that you signed a waiver and you will tell them you never signed a waiver and because of their negligence you were injured.
If they still don't want to comply talk to an attorney and/or take them to small claims court for your loses. Try to get witnesses to what happened if you can.
I'm not a lawyer so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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I'm also a Level 3 instructor and what happened to you was uncalled for. No where in the Level 3 training manual does it state to throw anything at a student. The Students safety is the ultimate responsibility of the Instructor(s). I'm no attorney but I would definitely contact one to at least get your money back.
good luck and let us know how it turns out.
What about contacting the agency that certifies these people? I know that if I pulled that kind of crap while teaching a UT CFP class, UT BCI would rip me a new one!
"A few well placed shots with a .22LR is a lot better than a bunch of solid misses with a .44 mag!" Glock Armorer, NRA Chief RSO, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Muzzleloading Rifle, Muzzleloading Shotgun, and Home Firearm Safety Training Counselor
A waiver will not release themfrom an assault charge.
When liberals run out of other people's right to infridge upon, how many will give up theirs?
Seems like there could be more to this story.
~ Glock 27 ~
Huh? WTF are you implying?
~The Dude Abides~
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