Got pulled over tonight.

[Fallguy]

That is pretty good he didn't want to handle your weapon. But I don't see the reason to search your vehicle or person. Granted he asked and your consentened...and I admit in the past I probably would have to...and I won't say that I never would in the future, but more and more I'm not too keen on letting someone rummage through my vehicle just because they want to. Of course depending on several factors I admit this approach could get you a ticket for what ever offense you are stopped for. (Although I think I would go to court over a ticket for no headlight when it was actually a DRL). Since not required in TN I'm not even sure I would volunteer I was armed unless the officer was about to search, wouldn't want him to just find it on his own.

But I'm glad all went well and you are satisfied with the encounter. But maybe you want to rethink whatever it is that keeps getting you pulled over. :)

Brainchild....an officer can search your car if you consent, if he sees something in "plain sight" or if he has probable cause. Probable cause could be the odor of alcohol or drugs among many other things. The officer does not have to tell you when he has probable cause or what it is for that matter. About the only way to fight the search as unreasonable is when it goes to court.

[Redding]

probable......Probable.........PROBABLE.....the word is probable cause.:1d6f:

[Fallguy]

Originally Posted by Redding

probable......Probable.........PROBABLE.....the word is probable cause.:1d6f:

LOL....oops...damn spell check. :rolleyesb:

Fixed

[HK4U]

Originally Posted by Fallguy

That is pretty good he didn't want to handle your weapon. But I don't see the reason to search your vehicle or person. Granted he asked and your consentened...and I admit in the past I probably would have to...and I won't say that I never would in the future, but more and more I'm not too keen on letting someone rummage through my vehicle just because they want to. Of course depending on several factors I admit this approach could get you a ticket for what ever offense you are stopped for. (Although I think I would go to court over a ticket for no headlight when it was actually a DRL). Since not required in TN I'm not even sure I would volunteer I was armed unless the officer was about to search, wouldn't want him to just find it on his own.

But I'm glad all went well and you are satisfied with the encounter. But maybe you want to rethink whatever it is that keeps getting you pulled over. :)

Brainchild....an officer can search your car if you consent, if he sees something in "plain sight" or if he has probable cause. Probably cause could be the odor of alcohol or drugs among many other things. The officer does not have to tell you when he has probably cause or what it is for that matter. About the only way to fight the search as unreasonable is when it goes to court.

If you give consent to search and they find something that say the last person that worked on you car left like drugs are what ever guess who will be going to jail.

[whiptrackercracker]

Originally Posted by Brainchild

I agree.That sounds like just about the coolest,most respecful,and respectable traffic stop there could be.
I feel that I have to inject something sour in this punchbowl,though.I keep seeing on those cop shows(yes,I know the people they show getting pulled over do not appear to be the smartest) that the LEO asks the 'suspect' if he is carrying anything illegal,they always say no,the LEO asks if he can check in the car,and the suspect says yes.And the LEO always finds something.Here's my question:WHY DO THEY LET THE LEO LOOK IN THEIR CAR!?
I believe the Constitution does mention something about search warrants.I try to stay on the 'right' side of the law.But if a LEO asks to look in my car,I would politely tell him that he is free to look when I see his warrant.I believe somebody on this forum said if we don't excersise our rights we will lose them.
Just my $1.00's worth.
But,again,that was a cool stop.

I always stay fully respectful of LEO and the job they must do. However, I do not consent to any search unless they can provide me a reason to do so. If it truly is a valid reason, like the time a can of halloween stage blood had spilled over on my back seat...opps, then so be it. If the valid reason is just a fishing trip, then go fish elsewhere I have nothing to hide anyways. Most of the people on cops have already shown that they are not to bright by having illegal things in their car. They are then not to bright by committing a lie to the officer of such contraband. Therefore, it is expected that they would not understand their rights anyways. I personally don't have a problem if an officer wants to check the "in plain sight" areas of my car. Many times they are just concerned of their safety. Maybe they can clean it up as they search.:) But, if an officer wants to check the trunk or glove box which are locked, they better give me a reason or have a warrant. I have never had this happen, other than once. The officer, who was a rookie, threatened to take me to jail unless he could search my trunk. I had just a bunch of tools in there, nothing illegal. Anyways, I stood on principle and did not consent to the search with out probable cause or a warrant. The officer stuck to me with threats until another more veteran officer came by and learned of what was going on. Very quickly I got a thank you and was allowed to leave. I love cops, but I believe we must practice our rights, or some may think that they do not exist. ARGG.

[toreskha]

I keep my car nearly empty inside, so there's nothing to even remotely rummage through until you get into the glove compartments and trunk. They can't say they thought they saw/smelled something, because there's nothing to see or smell. It's just a whole lot of nothing.

[Memphis]

Wow! A lot of good responses to this post. Thanks guys.

[wlynn]

HK4U's response to a pull-over is, I believe, the exactly right thing to do. If I am ever stopped (knock on wood), I will certainly hand over my CCL with my driver's license. This allows the officer to be aware without saying aloud words like "weapon" or "gun." I know some laws seem to state you must immediately inform the officer. I believe this is the safest way to do so. Any LEO's out there have an opinion?
And now, my edit.
Good grief! I didn't know this thread was 17 pages long. I was referring to HK4U's first response on page one. I need a larger screen to see all the info.

[Creeker]

Originally Posted by HK4U

If you give consent to search and they find something that say the last person that worked on you car left like drugs are what ever guess who will be going to jail.

Guess who is using the wrong mechanic, or allowing the wrong people to mule with his car... ;)

[Glock Fan]

Originally Posted by Creeker

Guess who is using the wrong mechanic, or allowing the wrong people to mule with his car... ;)

Doesn't have to be the mechanic. I had an experience once at one of those "classy" hotels here in Waikiki. The self parking was full, so only the valet service was available. When I got my car back I briefly glanced at the driver's seat. Didn't look quite right. I had a really bad feeling about the situation, so I pulled over into a nearby beach park and checked it out. I found a little baggy stuck in the seat cushion that contained a funny looking substance (suspected to be crystal meth). I immediately called 911 to report the incident. A patrol officer responded and took custody of the "substance". The responding officer commented that it looked like crystal meth, took down my info and told me he was going to check out the situation. I got a follow up call the next morning from the officer telling me that a valet is in BIG trouble.


gf